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Attributes | |
ACN | 536021 |
Time | |
Date | 200201 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den.airport |
State Reference | CO |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d01.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B777-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time type : 538 |
ASRS Report | 536021 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact other |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company FAA Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | FAA |
Narrative:
Taxiing out to runway 25, ground control clears 'swap route.1' our papers include coded departure routes. We pick the first in the list, it is labeled '1' on departure control. We are cleared direct to fix, it's not in our route of flight. We question departure control. He has us going over hanki. We show our departure route going over hct. He reclrs to fly present heading, and subsequently we are cleared present position J94 onl dbq jvl. Reviewing the coded departure routes, they are all labeled '1.' to differentiate between coded routes in den, it appears the terminology would be 'cleared swap' or 'coded departure route E1,' or 'N1,' etc. However, coded departure routes received the next day for our ord flight were arranged in order, top to bottom, 1 through 8, and a ninth route labeled '0.' each route had a letter following the route number. This discrepancy in arranging and labeling these routes opens up the opportunity for misunderstanding. This type of reroute is usually given while taxiing. A high workload time as it is, they are not that common. We need to make the identifiers standard and simple.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B777-200 CREW WAS GIVEN A 'SWAP' RTE CHANGE ON TAXI OUT AT DEN. ROUTING NOMENCLATURE WAS CONFUSING AND RESULTED IN THE CREW BEGINNING TO FLY THE WRONG RTE.
Narrative: TAXIING OUT TO RWY 25, GND CTL CLRS 'SWAP RTE.1' OUR PAPERS INCLUDE CODED DEP ROUTES. WE PICK THE FIRST IN THE LIST, IT IS LABELED '1' ON DEP CTL. WE ARE CLRED DIRECT TO FIX, IT'S NOT IN OUR RTE OF FLT. WE QUESTION DEP CTL. HE HAS US GOING OVER HANKI. WE SHOW OUR DEP RTE GOING OVER HCT. HE RECLRS TO FLY PRESENT HEADING, AND SUBSEQUENTLY WE ARE CLRED PRESENT POS J94 ONL DBQ JVL. REVIEWING THE CODED DEP ROUTES, THEY ARE ALL LABELED '1.' TO DIFFERENTIATE BTWN CODED ROUTES IN DEN, IT APPEARS THE TERMINOLOGY WOULD BE 'CLRED SWAP' OR 'CODED DEP RTE E1,' OR 'N1,' ETC. HOWEVER, CODED DEP ROUTES RECEIVED THE NEXT DAY FOR OUR ORD FLT WERE ARRANGED IN ORDER, TOP TO BOTTOM, 1 THROUGH 8, AND A NINTH RTE LABELED '0.' EACH RTE HAD A LETTER FOLLOWING THE RTE NUMBER. THIS DISCREPANCY IN ARRANGING AND LABELING THESE ROUTES OPENS UP THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MISUNDERSTANDING. THIS TYPE OF REROUTE IS USUALLY GIVEN WHILE TAXIING. A HIGH WORKLOAD TIME AS IT IS, THEY ARE NOT THAT COMMON. WE NEED TO MAKE THE IDENTIFIERS STANDARD AND SIMPLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.