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Attributes | |
ACN | 537135 |
Time | |
Date | 200202 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d10.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 13r other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 1079 |
ASRS Report | 537135 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : exit non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : ils glide slope other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned airspace flight crew : exited penetrated airspace |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On approach runway 13R with first officer flying, ATC had us at 250 KTS. They simultaneously cleared us for the visual approach, asked us to maintain 180 or better and to do the best speed we could do to the marker, and changed us to tower. I read everything back and looked down to change frequencys. When I looked back up, we had dropped below the GS while still doing about 230 KTS. I don't know for sure, but we may have went under the floor of class B airspace. We leveled off, reduced speed, and continued the approach. It would be better not to get 3 things in 1 transmission and not to be asked to hurry approachs.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-300 FO ALLOWED THE ACFT TO DSND BELOW THE GS AND LEFT CLASS B AIRSPACE.
Narrative: ON APCH RWY 13R WITH FO FLYING, ATC HAD US AT 250 KTS. THEY SIMULTANEOUSLY CLRED US FOR THE VISUAL APCH, ASKED US TO MAINTAIN 180 OR BETTER AND TO DO THE BEST SPD WE COULD DO TO THE MARKER, AND CHANGED US TO TWR. I READ EVERYTHING BACK AND LOOKED DOWN TO CHANGE FREQS. WHEN I LOOKED BACK UP, WE HAD DROPPED BELOW THE GS WHILE STILL DOING ABOUT 230 KTS. I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE, BUT WE MAY HAVE WENT UNDER THE FLOOR OF CLASS B AIRSPACE. WE LEVELED OFF, REDUCED SPD, AND CONTINUED THE APCH. IT WOULD BE BETTER NOT TO GET 3 THINGS IN 1 XMISSION AND NOT TO BE ASKED TO HURRY APCHS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.