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Attributes | |
ACN | 538765 |
Time | |
Date | 200202 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : hpn.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Make Model Name | HS 125 Series 1-600 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 4800 flight time type : 600 |
ASRS Report | 538765 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication ATC Facility |
Primary Problem | ATC Facility |
Narrative:
On approach to hpn (white plains, ny) the ATIS is unreadable. Unless we are within 10 NM on the cmk VOR or 10 NM of the airport, it is too weak to hear. By then we are too busy to listen and usually have gotten the WX from approach control. We pick up most ATIS at least 80 NM out. The problem has existed for a least 2 months now. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: pilot reports that the ATIS on 116.6 is the arrival frequency and 133.8 is the departure frequency. The crew tried both frequencys and were unsuccessful until too late to make any difference. Pilot would like to receive ATIS before the start of descent so that cockpit workload would not be adversely impacted.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: BA46 CREW WAS UNABLE TO RECEIVE THE ARPT ATIS INFO UNTIL ONLY 10 MI FROM THE ARPT.
Narrative: ON APCH TO HPN (WHITE PLAINS, NY) THE ATIS IS UNREADABLE. UNLESS WE ARE WITHIN 10 NM ON THE CMK VOR OR 10 NM OF THE ARPT, IT IS TOO WEAK TO HEAR. BY THEN WE ARE TOO BUSY TO LISTEN AND USUALLY HAVE GOTTEN THE WX FROM APCH CTL. WE PICK UP MOST ATIS AT LEAST 80 NM OUT. THE PROB HAS EXISTED FOR A LEAST 2 MONTHS NOW. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: PLT RPTS THAT THE ATIS ON 116.6 IS THE ARRIVAL FREQ AND 133.8 IS THE DEP FREQ. THE CREW TRIED BOTH FREQS AND WERE UNSUCCESSFUL UNTIL TOO LATE TO MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. PLT WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE ATIS BEFORE THE START OF DESCENT SO THAT COCKPIT WORKLOAD WOULD NOT BE ADVERSELY IMPACTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.