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B757 flight crew rolled out during landing onto a closed portion of runway at NAS due the closed runway portion not being specified as such in the ATIS broadcast, but believed by pilots to be the 3000 ft displaced threshold.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 539570 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200203 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : edff.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | landing : roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 539570 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | excursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airport Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Airport |
Narrative:
NAS ATIS stated runway 14 threshold displaced 3000 ft. On final, tower controller stated runway 14 threshold displaced -- 3000 ft unusable. Close in, we could see a white line across the runway with arrows pointing to it at about 3000 ft down the runway. We touched down just past this line. On rollout just before exiting the runway, we crossed another white line with the same markings. As we turned off the runway, a different tower controller cleared us to the gate and told us we were on the closed section of the runway. There were no temporary cones or markings -- only these permanent white painted lines. 2 others landed behind us and both did the same as we did. The discussion with the tower was heated as everyone tried to explain that 'threshold' means the beginning of the runway. Next hour, ATIS was changed to '3000 ft of runway 14 closed' - still not the 'last 3000 ft.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 FLC ROLLED OUT DURING LNDG ONTO A CLOSED PORTION OF RWY AT NAS DUE THE CLOSED RWY PORTION NOT BEING SPECIFIED AS SUCH IN THE ATIS BROADCAST, BUT BELIEVED BY PLTS TO BE THE 3000 FT DISPLACED THRESHOLD.
Narrative: NAS ATIS STATED RWY 14 THRESHOLD DISPLACED 3000 FT. ON FINAL, TWR CTLR STATED RWY 14 THRESHOLD DISPLACED -- 3000 FT UNUSABLE. CLOSE IN, WE COULD SEE A WHITE LINE ACROSS THE RWY WITH ARROWS POINTING TO IT AT ABOUT 3000 FT DOWN THE RWY. WE TOUCHED DOWN JUST PAST THIS LINE. ON ROLLOUT JUST BEFORE EXITING THE RWY, WE CROSSED ANOTHER WHITE LINE WITH THE SAME MARKINGS. AS WE TURNED OFF THE RWY, A DIFFERENT TWR CTLR CLRED US TO THE GATE AND TOLD US WE WERE ON THE CLOSED SECTION OF THE RWY. THERE WERE NO TEMPORARY CONES OR MARKINGS -- ONLY THESE PERMANENT WHITE PAINTED LINES. 2 OTHERS LANDED BEHIND US AND BOTH DID THE SAME AS WE DID. THE DISCUSSION WITH THE TWR WAS HEATED AS EVERYONE TRIED TO EXPLAIN THAT 'THRESHOLD' MEANS THE BEGINNING OF THE RWY. NEXT HR, ATIS WAS CHANGED TO '3000 FT OF RWY 14 CLOSED' - STILL NOT THE 'LAST 3000 FT.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.