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Attributes | |
ACN | 540293 |
Time | |
Date | 200203 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mmu.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Gulfstream V |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 120 |
ASRS Report | 540293 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllerb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
At approximately XA30 at mmu on mar/tue/02, the first officer and I were starting engines for departure from mmu-apa. The tower was due to open at XA45. After start, we discussed our plans to get our IFR clearance via ZNY frequency. After several attempts on our taxi, I decided to call new york TRACON for our clearance. When we reached the departure end of runway 23, we were #2 behind a lear. I placed the call on my cell phone and I handed it to the first officer. He copied the clearance and said that TRACON said to 'call back in 6 mins or wait for the mmu tower to open.' after the lear departed and with VFR WX, I decided to depart and pick up the clearance airborne. We departed per the SID for noise abatement. Time of departure was XA42. Once airborne, the first officer contacted ZNY. Upon contact, the controller asked if we were IFR. The first officer replied 'yes.' the first officer should have replied 'no' as we were VFR with VMC. The controller called us 'radar contact' and assigned a heading and altitude. After a few moments, the controller asked if we had a clearance and who cleared us for departure. After some conversation between the first officer and controller, the controller replied that we should not have taken off without a clearance. I then replied to the controller that we had departed VFR before the tower opened. He said 'not to worry, but you shouldn't do that again.' summary; after lots of thought and consideration, I realize that I, as captain, should not have made the decision to depart VFR on an IFR flight plan. While I understand the confusion of having an IFR clearance with no void time and the first officer stating that we were IFR when we were actually VFR, I should not have been so rushed and put us in that situation. Lesson learned.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GULFSTREAM GLF5 CAPT TOOK OFF VFR AND PICKED UP IFR RESULTING IN DEP CTLR ADVISING HIM TO NEXT TIME WAIT FOR AN IFR RELEASE.
Narrative: AT APPROX XA30 AT MMU ON MAR/TUE/02, THE FO AND I WERE STARTING ENGS FOR DEP FROM MMU-APA. THE TWR WAS DUE TO OPEN AT XA45. AFTER START, WE DISCUSSED OUR PLANS TO GET OUR IFR CLRNC VIA ZNY FREQ. AFTER SEVERAL ATTEMPTS ON OUR TAXI, I DECIDED TO CALL NEW YORK TRACON FOR OUR CLRNC. WHEN WE REACHED THE DEP END OF RWY 23, WE WERE #2 BEHIND A LEAR. I PLACED THE CALL ON MY CELL PHONE AND I HANDED IT TO THE FO. HE COPIED THE CLRNC AND SAID THAT TRACON SAID TO 'CALL BACK IN 6 MINS OR WAIT FOR THE MMU TWR TO OPEN.' AFTER THE LEAR DEPARTED AND WITH VFR WX, I DECIDED TO DEPART AND PICK UP THE CLRNC AIRBORNE. WE DEPARTED PER THE SID FOR NOISE ABATEMENT. TIME OF DEP WAS XA42. ONCE AIRBORNE, THE FO CONTACTED ZNY. UPON CONTACT, THE CTLR ASKED IF WE WERE IFR. THE FO REPLIED 'YES.' THE FO SHOULD HAVE REPLIED 'NO' AS WE WERE VFR WITH VMC. THE CTLR CALLED US 'RADAR CONTACT' AND ASSIGNED A HDG AND ALT. AFTER A FEW MOMENTS, THE CTLR ASKED IF WE HAD A CLRNC AND WHO CLRED US FOR DEP. AFTER SOME CONVERSATION BTWN THE FO AND CTLR, THE CTLR REPLIED THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN OFF WITHOUT A CLRNC. I THEN REPLIED TO THE CTLR THAT WE HAD DEPARTED VFR BEFORE THE TWR OPENED. HE SAID 'NOT TO WORRY, BUT YOU SHOULDN'T DO THAT AGAIN.' SUMMARY; AFTER LOTS OF THOUGHT AND CONSIDERATION, I REALIZE THAT I, AS CAPT, SHOULD NOT HAVE MADE THE DECISION TO DEPART VFR ON AN IFR FLT PLAN. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE CONFUSION OF HAVING AN IFR CLRNC WITH NO VOID TIME AND THE FO STATING THAT WE WERE IFR WHEN WE WERE ACTUALLY VFR, I SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SO RUSHED AND PUT US IN THAT SIT. LESSON LEARNED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.