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Attributes | |
ACN | 541251 |
Time | |
Date | 200203 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : slc.airport |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | msl single value : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : s56.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : holding descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : slc.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 600 |
ASRS Report | 541251 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6900 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 541252 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllerb other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Being vectored from the west for an approach to runway 16R, we were held at 8000 ft and given a vector 90 degrees to final (base right leg) so close to the final approach course that we overshot well past the runway 16R centerline with a full 30 degree bank turn. Upon switching to tower frequency, tower was already calling us advising that we had overshot and asked if we had received a TCASII alert from the commuter jet on final for runway 16L. We had received an RA showing the traffic 900 ft below us. By this time we were past the 161 degree heading and moving away from the traffic. Along with the overshoot, we had to s-turn to the west to accomplish a stabilized approach. Not only were we vectored too close so as to overshoot, we were very high.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR CREW RPTS A POOR VECTOR TO FINAL APCH THAT LEFT THEM WITH AN OVERSHOOT OF FINAL AT TOO HIGH AN ALT AND CAUSED THE TWR CONCERN WITH TFC SEPARATION FROM PARALLEL RWY TFC.
Narrative: BEING VECTORED FROM THE W FOR AN APCH TO RWY 16R, WE WERE HELD AT 8000 FT AND GIVEN A VECTOR 90 DEGS TO FINAL (BASE R LEG) SO CLOSE TO THE FINAL APCH COURSE THAT WE OVERSHOT WELL PAST THE RWY 16R CTRLINE WITH A FULL 30 DEG BANK TURN. UPON SWITCHING TO TWR FREQ, TWR WAS ALREADY CALLING US ADVISING THAT WE HAD OVERSHOT AND ASKED IF WE HAD RECEIVED A TCASII ALERT FROM THE COMMUTER JET ON FINAL FOR RWY 16L. WE HAD RECEIVED AN RA SHOWING THE TFC 900 FT BELOW US. BY THIS TIME WE WERE PAST THE 161 DEG HDG AND MOVING AWAY FROM THE TFC. ALONG WITH THE OVERSHOOT, WE HAD TO S-TURN TO THE W TO ACCOMPLISH A STABILIZED APCH. NOT ONLY WERE WE VECTORED TOO CLOSE SO AS TO OVERSHOOT, WE WERE VERY HIGH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.