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Ric tower controller sent an MD80 around since he was not sure the reporter's PA-28 was clear of the runway, as that airport location could not be observed by the tower controllers.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 544567 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200204 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ric.airport |
| State Reference | WA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : ric.tower |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : ric.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | landing : go around |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 6300 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 544567 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : separated traffic flight crew : executed go around none taken : detected after the fact |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airport |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was taxing for departure on runway 16. Original instructions were 'taxi to runway 16, hold short runway 20.' while holding at hold line on runway 20 ground instructed 'cross runway 20 hold short runway 16' because of the close proximity of both departure ends I repeated, 'cleared to cross runway 20 to hold short of runway 16!' when I approached runway 16 there was no hold short line. Because the tower couldn't see my position the controller asked if I was on runway 16. I said I was holding short. They told an MD80 to go around because an aircraft was possibly on the runway. With wind out of the south, they normally land airliners on runway 20 while departure off runway 16. If this was ground intent they should have instructed one to 'cross runway 20 and taxi into position and hold on runway 16. Now that I know there's no hold short line for runway 16, I can't accept that clearance in the future.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RIC TWR CTLR SENT AN MD80 AROUND SINCE HE WAS NOT SURE THE RPTR'S PA-28 WAS CLR OF THE RWY, AS THAT ARPT LOCATION COULD NOT BE OBSERVED BY THE TWR CTLRS.
Narrative: I WAS TAXING FOR DEP ON RWY 16. ORIGINAL INSTRUCTIONS WERE 'TAXI TO RWY 16, HOLD SHORT RWY 20.' WHILE HOLDING AT HOLD LINE ON RWY 20 GND INSTRUCTED 'CROSS RWY 20 HOLD SHORT RWY 16' BECAUSE OF THE CLOSE PROXIMITY OF BOTH DEPARTURE ENDS I REPEATED, 'CLRED TO CROSS RWY 20 TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 16!' WHEN I APCHED RWY 16 THERE WAS NO HOLD SHORT LINE. BECAUSE THE TWR COULDN'T SEE MY POSITION THE CTLR ASKED IF I WAS ON RWY 16. I SAID I WAS HOLDING SHORT. THEY TOLD AN MD80 TO GAR BECAUSE AN ACFT WAS POSSIBLY ON THE RWY. WITH WIND OUT OF THE S, THEY NORMALLY LAND AIRLINERS ON RWY 20 WHILE DEP OFF RWY 16. IF THIS WAS GND INTENT THEY SHOULD HAVE INSTRUCTED ONE TO 'CROSS RWY 20 AND TAXI INTO POSITION AND HOLD ON RWY 16. NOW THAT I KNOW THERE'S NO HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 16, I CAN'T ACCEPT THAT CLRNC IN THE FUTURE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.