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Attributes | |
ACN | 544636 |
Time | |
Date | 200204 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jac.airport |
State Reference | WY |
Altitude | msl single value : 7400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : jac.tower |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Conquest I/Conquest II |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Route In Use | approach : circling approach : visual approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 5800 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 544636 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : executed go around none taken : anomaly accepted other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was on the VOR/GPS 36 jac airport. On initial call-up, I provided tower controller with ATIS and had been cleared for an approach by ZLC. WX called for 2300 ft scattered and 5000 ft broken, so we elected for the VOR/GPS 36 approach, arriving from the south. Jac tower asked us for PIREP on WX. I fly to jackson regularly, and am familiar with this approach. We make trips into jackson every 2 weeks. As the approach continued, we were advised of ceilings lowering. We broke out above minimums with approximately 2 mi visibility. To the north of the airport we could see that the ceilings were much lower, with some rain shower activity, but clear view of entire airport. We were then cleared for a circle-to-land on the opposing runway, runway 8. We circled to land but PF (first officer) flew a tight pattern, concerned with deteriorating visibility to the north of the airport. On approach to runway 18, we were too high and elected to make a go around. We then requested a landing on runway 36, which tower approved. Landing was uneventful with what appeared to be a direct crosswind from the west. This, we understood, was the reason for overshooting the final on the circle-to-land approach. Tower seemed to be frustrated, but were asking us for PIREPS of temperatures aloft and icing conditions encountered during the approach. This increased our workload and frustration, when trying to make an approach in marginal conditions. We asked why we were not given runway 36 in the first place and tower advised that due to winds they had to issue circle-to-land clearance, whereby it was safer and practical to land straight in from this approach. I attempted to call tower immediately afterwards by telephone. The FBO advised me that the jac tower does not want their number given out. After persisting, I was given the number and spoke directly to the tower controller and expressed our frustration and advised him that increased workload at critical phase of flight by giving PIREPS was not desirable.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLTS CIRCLE-TO-LAND, HIGH ON FINAL, GAR INITIATED, NORMAL LNDG ACCOMPLISHED.
Narrative: I WAS ON THE VOR/GPS 36 JAC ARPT. ON INITIAL CALL-UP, I PROVIDED TWR CTLR WITH ATIS AND HAD BEEN CLRED FOR AN APCH BY ZLC. WX CALLED FOR 2300 FT SCATTERED AND 5000 FT BROKEN, SO WE ELECTED FOR THE VOR/GPS 36 APCH, ARRIVING FROM THE S. JAC TWR ASKED US FOR PIREP ON WX. I FLY TO JACKSON REGULARLY, AND AM FAMILIAR WITH THIS APCH. WE MAKE TRIPS INTO JACKSON EVERY 2 WKS. AS THE APCH CONTINUED, WE WERE ADVISED OF CEILINGS LOWERING. WE BROKE OUT ABOVE MINIMUMS WITH APPROX 2 MI VISIBILITY. TO THE N OF THE ARPT WE COULD SEE THAT THE CEILINGS WERE MUCH LOWER, WITH SOME RAIN SHOWER ACTIVITY, BUT CLR VIEW OF ENTIRE ARPT. WE WERE THEN CLRED FOR A CIRCLE-TO-LAND ON THE OPPOSING RWY, RWY 8. WE CIRCLED TO LAND BUT PF (FO) FLEW A TIGHT PATTERN, CONCERNED WITH DETERIORATING VISIBILITY TO THE N OF THE ARPT. ON APCH TO RWY 18, WE WERE TOO HIGH AND ELECTED TO MAKE A GAR. WE THEN REQUESTED A LNDG ON RWY 36, WHICH TWR APPROVED. LNDG WAS UNEVENTFUL WITH WHAT APPEARED TO BE A DIRECT XWIND FROM THE W. THIS, WE UNDERSTOOD, WAS THE REASON FOR OVERSHOOTING THE FINAL ON THE CIRCLE-TO-LAND APCH. TWR SEEMED TO BE FRUSTRATED, BUT WERE ASKING US FOR PIREPS OF TEMPS ALOFT AND ICING CONDITIONS ENCOUNTERED DURING THE APCH. THIS INCREASED OUR WORKLOAD AND FRUSTRATION, WHEN TRYING TO MAKE AN APCH IN MARGINAL CONDITIONS. WE ASKED WHY WE WERE NOT GIVEN RWY 36 IN THE FIRST PLACE AND TWR ADVISED THAT DUE TO WINDS THEY HAD TO ISSUE CIRCLE-TO-LAND CLRNC, WHEREBY IT WAS SAFER AND PRACTICAL TO LAND STRAIGHT IN FROM THIS APCH. I ATTEMPTED TO CALL TWR IMMEDIATELY AFTERWARDS BY TELEPHONE. THE FBO ADVISED ME THAT THE JAC TWR DOES NOT WANT THEIR NUMBER GIVEN OUT. AFTER PERSISTING, I WAS GIVEN THE NUMBER AND SPOKE DIRECTLY TO THE TWR CTLR AND EXPRESSED OUR FRUSTRATION AND ADVISED HIM THAT INCREASED WORKLOAD AT CRITICAL PHASE OF FLT BY GIVING PIREPS WAS NOT DESIRABLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.