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Attributes | |
ACN | 545361 |
Time | |
Date | 200204 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iad.airport |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mem.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | ground : parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time type : 5129 |
ASRS Report | 545361 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted none taken : unable |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | FAA |
Primary Problem | FAA |
Narrative:
FAA aviation safety inspector gave an en route flight check on this leg. Had FAA idents and driver's license. Also had scruffy goatee. When shown fom and 'posbd' references to need to ride in cabin, inspector wasn't in agreement that the specific references to inspectors actually applied to him and did not accept the argument that if in our manuals the policy carried the force of FARS, so I avoided quibbling contest and proceeded with a normal flight with him in cockpit. I feel FAA should not put us in position of violating our own procedures to avoid an incident with an air safety inspector. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that he was not completely sure as to the full extent of the FAA inspector's interpretation of if his company approved flight operations manual applied to the inspector. Therefore, he decided to allow the inspector to ride in the cockpit and raise the issue with his company. However, both his company and employee representative have not given him a decisive answer, other than to say that it is an unclr area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FAA INSPECTOR CONDUCTED ENRTE SURVEILLANCE INSPECTION IN THE COCKPIT WITH FACIAL HAIR CONTRARY TO APPROVED ACR FLT OPS MANUAL DUE TO A NEED TO USE AN OXYGEN MASK IN CASE OF ACFT DEPRESSURIZATION.
Narrative: FAA AVIATION SAFETY INSPECTOR GAVE AN ENRTE FLT CHK ON THIS LEG. HAD FAA IDENTS AND DRIVER'S LICENSE. ALSO HAD SCRUFFY GOATEE. WHEN SHOWN FOM AND 'POSBD' REFS TO NEED TO RIDE IN CABIN, INSPECTOR WASN'T IN AGREEMENT THAT THE SPECIFIC REFS TO INSPECTORS ACTUALLY APPLIED TO HIM AND DID NOT ACCEPT THE ARGUMENT THAT IF IN OUR MANUALS THE POLICY CARRIED THE FORCE OF FARS, SO I AVOIDED QUIBBLING CONTEST AND PROCEEDED WITH A NORMAL FLT WITH HIM IN COCKPIT. I FEEL FAA SHOULD NOT PUT US IN POS OF VIOLATING OUR OWN PROCS TO AVOID AN INCIDENT WITH AN AIR SAFETY INSPECTOR. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT HE WAS NOT COMPLETELY SURE AS TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE FAA INSPECTOR'S INTERP OF IF HIS COMPANY APPROVED FLT OPS MANUAL APPLIED TO THE INSPECTOR. THEREFORE, HE DECIDED TO ALLOW THE INSPECTOR TO RIDE IN THE COCKPIT AND RAISE THE ISSUE WITH HIS COMPANY. HOWEVER, BOTH HIS COMPANY AND EMPLOYEE REPRESENTATIVE HAVE NOT GIVEN HIM A DECISIVE ANSWER, OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT IT IS AN UNCLR AREA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.