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Attributes | |
ACN | 551945 |
Time | |
Date | 200206 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : o90.tracon tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument non precision arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 551945 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact other |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
As we approached landfall, sjc ATIS called for either a VOR or visual approach to runway 30R. At landfall, it was evident that a visual approach could not be conducted, so we set up for the VOR runway 30R approach. ATIS was rechked and still found to be the same. Bay approach gave us a heading of 030 degrees which we assumed was a delay vector. Bay then gave us a heading of 300 degrees and then 290 degrees. Both of these were assumed to delay vectors. Bay approach never at any time mentioned the runway or approach to be used. At about 8 mi from the sjc VOR we were turned to 090 degrees, cleared to 3000 ft and cleared for the VOR-a approach to runway 12L. This was quite a surprise, but due to having the sjc charts out, and quickly setting up the FMC, radio altimeter, MDA, and VOR settings a normal approach was conducted. ATC should have told us of the change in runway and approach. Upon being handed over to a strange approach frequency (normal is 120.1) and being issued non normal headings, we should have queried bay approach as to what was going on. Example: 'is this a delay vector?' 'is this for runway 30R?' in a strange environment, refusal of the approach clearance would have been proper action.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RADAR CTLR AT BAY APCH VECTORED A B757 FOR A RWY DIFFERENT THAN WAS BROADCAST ON THE CURRENT ATIS.
Narrative: AS WE APCHED LANDFALL, SJC ATIS CALLED FOR EITHER A VOR OR VISUAL APCH TO RWY 30R. AT LANDFALL, IT WAS EVIDENT THAT A VISUAL APCH COULD NOT BE CONDUCTED, SO WE SET UP FOR THE VOR RWY 30R APCH. ATIS WAS RECHKED AND STILL FOUND TO BE THE SAME. BAY APCH GAVE US A HDG OF 030 DEGS WHICH WE ASSUMED WAS A DELAY VECTOR. BAY THEN GAVE US A HDG OF 300 DEGS AND THEN 290 DEGS. BOTH OF THESE WERE ASSUMED TO DELAY VECTORS. BAY APCH NEVER AT ANY TIME MENTIONED THE RWY OR APCH TO BE USED. AT ABOUT 8 MI FROM THE SJC VOR WE WERE TURNED TO 090 DEGS, CLRED TO 3000 FT AND CLRED FOR THE VOR-A APCH TO RWY 12L. THIS WAS QUITE A SURPRISE, BUT DUE TO HAVING THE SJC CHARTS OUT, AND QUICKLY SETTING UP THE FMC, RADIO ALTIMETER, MDA, AND VOR SETTINGS A NORMAL APCH WAS CONDUCTED. ATC SHOULD HAVE TOLD US OF THE CHANGE IN RWY AND APCH. UPON BEING HANDED OVER TO A STRANGE APCH FREQ (NORMAL IS 120.1) AND BEING ISSUED NON NORMAL HDGS, WE SHOULD HAVE QUERIED BAY APCH AS TO WHAT WAS GOING ON. EXAMPLE: 'IS THIS A DELAY VECTOR?' 'IS THIS FOR RWY 30R?' IN A STRANGE ENVIRONMENT, REFUSAL OF THE APCH CLRNC WOULD HAVE BEEN PROPER ACTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.