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Attributes | |
ACN | 557375 |
Time | |
Date | 200208 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl single value : 8000 |
Environment | |
Weather Elements | Thunderstorm |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : c90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 22r |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 261 |
ASRS Report | 557375 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 261 |
ASRS Report | 557223 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : radar other controllera other controllerb other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Weather ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
We were given a vector to intercept runway 22R localizer. I responded unable due to thunderstorm avoidance and requested present heading (215) for 20 miles. ATC ignored us and kept us at 250IAS, 8000 MSL. After no further guidance from controller, I asked what was intended for us. He stated runway 22R. I said we were able to take vectors to ridge. He said turn right to 140 heading, which would put us right into level 3 cell we just avoided. I said unable and requested lower. He said maintain present heading now 320, and slow to 180. I perceived by ATC attitude and tone of voice he was punishing us for not going thru cell. I asked him to put ATC supervisor on who would safely control us. He began yelling that until we go where he wants us to go we can't get lower and he doesn't control the WX. I decided to not answer this ignorant remark and to concentrate on keeping my aircraft safely away from the thunderstorms. He then reminded us that our assigned speed was 180, which we had yet to slow down to. First officer did not hear the 180 assigned speed and I became distracted by the unprofessional and unsafe actions of the controller.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 CREW INBOUND TO ORD ARPT REFUSED VECTORS TOWARD STORM CELLS.
Narrative: WE WERE GIVEN A VECTOR TO INTERCEPT RWY 22R LOC. I RESPONDED UNABLE DUE TO THUNDERSTORM AVOIDANCE AND REQUESTED PRESENT HDG (215) FOR 20 MILES. ATC IGNORED US AND KEPT US AT 250IAS, 8000 MSL. AFTER NO FURTHER GUIDANCE FROM CTLR, I ASKED WHAT WAS INTENDED FOR US. HE STATED RWY 22R. I SAID WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE VECTORS TO RIDGE. HE SAID TURN R TO 140 HDG, WHICH WOULD PUT US RIGHT INTO LEVEL 3 CELL WE JUST AVOIDED. I SAID UNABLE AND REQUESTED LOWER. HE SAID MAINTAIN PRESENT HDG NOW 320, AND SLOW TO 180. I PERCEIVED BY ATC ATTITUDE AND TONE OF VOICE HE WAS PUNISHING US FOR NOT GOING THRU CELL. I ASKED HIM TO PUT ATC SUPVR ON WHO WOULD SAFELY CONTROL US. HE BEGAN YELLING THAT UNTIL WE GO WHERE HE WANTS US TO GO WE CAN'T GET LOWER AND HE DOESN'T CONTROL THE WX. I DECIDED TO NOT ANSWER THIS IGNORANT REMARK AND TO CONCENTRATE ON KEEPING MY ACFT SAFELY AWAY FROM THE THUNDERSTORMS. HE THEN REMINDED US THAT OUR ASSIGNED SPEED WAS 180, WHICH WE HAD YET TO SLOW DOWN TO. FO DID NOT HEAR THE 180 ASSIGNED SPEED AND I BECAME DISTRACTED BY THE UNPROFESSIONAL AND UNSAFE ACTIONS OF THE CTLR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.