Runway incursion by the flight crew of a training PA44 when they crossed the hold short line for run...

Attributes
ACN	561643
Time
Date	200210
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : bdr.airport
State Reference	CT
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	PA-44 Seminole Turbo Seminole
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	ground : taxi
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 1900 flight time type : 120
ASRS Report	561643
Person 2
Affiliation	other
Function	instruction : trainee
Events
Anomaly	aircraft equipment problem : less severe incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Student started to cross hold short lines when no clearance was received. I was preoccupied with the door latch and didn't notice the error until after the plane was across. Then we contacted the tower and received proper clearance. Although we didn't enter in between the runway edges the infraction was inexcusable and better situational awareness could have prevented this occurrence. This was both my student's and my error.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: RWY INCURSION BY THE FLC OF A TRAINING PA44 WHEN THEY CROSSED THE HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY AT BDR, CT.

Narrative: STUDENT STARTED TO CROSS HOLD SHORT LINES WHEN NO CLRNC WAS RECEIVED. I WAS PREOCCUPIED WITH THE DOOR LATCH AND DIDN'T NOTICE THE ERROR UNTIL AFTER THE PLANE WAS ACROSS. THEN WE CONTACTED THE TWR AND RECEIVED PROPER CLRNC. ALTHOUGH WE DIDN'T ENTER IN BTWN THE RWY EDGES THE INFRACTION WAS INEXCUSABLE AND BETTER SITUATIONAL AWARENESS COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS OCCURRENCE. THIS WAS BOTH MY STUDENT'S AND MY ERROR.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Runway incursion by the flight crew of a training PA44 when they crossed the hold short line for runway at bdr, ct.