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Attributes | |
ACN | 563017 |
Time | |
Date | 200210 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : ogg.vortac |
State Reference | HI |
Altitude | msl single value : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | AS 350 Astar/Ecureuil |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute airway : v11.airway |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 500 flight time total : 9700 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 563017 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : investigated other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 200 |
Situations | |
Publication | SFAR71 |
Narrative:
I was on my way back from a tour flight and as I was reaching a known fix check point (opana point) a cessna was coming towards me head on and I had to dive to avoid a midair collision. This is a common occurrence that I have to dive or turn from an airplane with 6 people aboard my helicopter and the simple reason is the sfar ruling in hawaii. According to the sfar we must maintain 1500 ft over persons or property at all times. This is crazy. Again airplanes cannot see under their nose and we are constantly flying in the same airspace. It does not take a rocket scientist to see that we will have a midair collision sooner or later. Remember that the rest of the united states under far 135 rules, the helicopter can fly over congested areas at 300 ft that is why there are no midair collisions. There is lots of room to avoid one another. We must put a stop to this dangerous rule sfar 71 here in hawaii. I hope that someone is listening and planning to do something about it. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that it is difficult to stay clear of clouds on tours since many times it is safer to descend to a slightly lower altitude in order to avoid traffic conflicts as in this incident. However, the sfar 71 does not permit a lower altitude, for which he has previously been found to be in violation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN AN AS350 HELI AND A TWIN CESSNA DURING AN AIR TOUR FLT IN HAWAII.
Narrative: I WAS ON MY WAY BACK FROM A TOUR FLT AND AS I WAS REACHING A KNOWN FIX CHK POINT (OPANA POINT) A CESSNA WAS COMING TOWARDS ME HEAD ON AND I HAD TO DIVE TO AVOID A MIDAIR COLLISION. THIS IS A COMMON OCCURRENCE THAT I HAVE TO DIVE OR TURN FROM AN AIRPLANE WITH 6 PEOPLE ABOARD MY HELI AND THE SIMPLE REASON IS THE SFAR RULING IN HAWAII. ACCORDING TO THE SFAR WE MUST MAINTAIN 1500 FT OVER PERSONS OR PROPERTY AT ALL TIMES. THIS IS CRAZY. AGAIN AIRPLANES CANNOT SEE UNDER THEIR NOSE AND WE ARE CONSTANTLY FLYING IN THE SAME AIRSPACE. IT DOES NOT TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO SEE THAT WE WILL HAVE A MIDAIR COLLISION SOONER OR LATER. REMEMBER THAT THE REST OF THE UNITED STATES UNDER FAR 135 RULES, THE HELI CAN FLY OVER CONGESTED AREAS AT 300 FT THAT IS WHY THERE ARE NO MIDAIR COLLISIONS. THERE IS LOTS OF ROOM TO AVOID ONE ANOTHER. WE MUST PUT A STOP TO THIS DANGEROUS RULE SFAR 71 HERE IN HAWAII. I HOPE THAT SOMEONE IS LISTENING AND PLANNING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT IT IS DIFFICULT TO STAY CLR OF CLOUDS ON TOURS SINCE MANY TIMES IT IS SAFER TO DSND TO A SLIGHTLY LOWER ALT IN ORDER TO AVOID TFC CONFLICTS AS IN THIS INCIDENT. HOWEVER, THE SFAR 71 DOES NOT PERMIT A LOWER ALT, FOR WHICH HE HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN FOUND TO BE IN VIOLATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.