A track deviation by an air carrier crew on the idale RNAV one departure from las vegas, nv.

Attributes
ACN	565618
Time
Date	200211
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : las.airport
State Reference	NY
Altitude	msl single value : 5000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : l30.tracon
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B737-300
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	climbout : initial
Route In Use	departure sid : idale rnav
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1000
ASRS Report	565618
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 15000
ASRS Report	565496
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other controllerb
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	Ambiguous
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation Inter Facility Coordination Failure

Narrative:

During an RNAV departure from las, I was PNF. We were cleared for the idale RNAV departure, twenty nine palms transition. Both understood we were cleared for takeoff, runway heading to 7000 ft. After switching to departure control, and approximately 6 mi south of las, the controller asked if we were 'flying the departure?' I responded that we were expecting a vector to the first fix on the departure which seemed to generate confusion on the controller's part. We received a vector to jotnu on the departure and were subsequently handed off to lax.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A TRACK DEV BY AN ACR CREW ON THE IDALE RNAV ONE DEP FROM LAS VEGAS, NV.

Narrative: DURING AN RNAV DEP FROM LAS, I WAS PNF. WE WERE CLRED FOR THE IDALE RNAV DEP, TWENTY NINE PALMS TRANSITION. BOTH UNDERSTOOD WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF, RWY HEADING TO 7000 FT. AFTER SWITCHING TO DEP CTL, AND APPROX 6 MI S OF LAS, THE CTLR ASKED IF WE WERE 'FLYING THE DEP?' I RESPONDED THAT WE WERE EXPECTING A VECTOR TO THE FIRST FIX ON THE DEP WHICH SEEMED TO GENERATE CONFUSION ON THE CTLR'S PART. WE RECEIVED A VECTOR TO JOTNU ON THE DEP AND WERE SUBSEQUENTLY HANDED OFF TO LAX.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.