<< >> NASA ASRS Report 566880, November 2002

MD80 crew on rollout after landing stl and turn off on taxiway H as instructed, but stopped before completely clear of the runway.

Attributes
ACN	566880
Time
Date	200211
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : stl.airport
State Reference	MO
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : stl.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	MD-80 Super 80
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : taxi ground : holding landing : roll
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tower : stl.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
ASRS Report	566880
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
ASRS Report	566879
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure
Independent Detector	other controllera other controllerb other other : 6
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Location: stl airport. After landing on runway 12R, tower told us to clear at taxiway H and contact ground. We cleared at taxiway H and stopped short of taxiway a. Before we could contact ground, tower gave us a phone number and asked us to call supervisor. Supervisor asked why we didn't turn onto taxiway a. He said we almost caused a controller event. I told him we never turn onto an active taxiway without instructions. I thought my tail was clear of runway 12R. He said my tail was clear, but I should automatically turn onto taxiway a. I told him that his instructions should have been clear at taxiway H, right turn on taxiway a, contact ground. He said that was only for new carriers -- and we should do that without instruction. He felt I was deliberately trying to cause an incident and asked why I wasn't trying to help him out.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: MD80 CREW ON ROLLOUT AFTER LNDG STL AND TURN OFF ON TXWY H AS INSTRUCTED, BUT STOPPED BEFORE COMPLETELY CLR OF THE RWY.

Narrative: LOCATION: STL ARPT. AFTER LNDG ON RWY 12R, TWR TOLD US TO CLR AT TXWY H AND CONTACT GND. WE CLRED AT TXWY H AND STOPPED SHORT OF TXWY A. BEFORE WE COULD CONTACT GND, TWR GAVE US A PHONE NUMBER AND ASKED US TO CALL SUPVR. SUPVR ASKED WHY WE DIDN'T TURN ONTO TXWY A. HE SAID WE ALMOST CAUSED A CTLR EVENT. I TOLD HIM WE NEVER TURN ONTO AN ACTIVE TXWY WITHOUT INSTRUCTIONS. I THOUGHT MY TAIL WAS CLR OF RWY 12R. HE SAID MY TAIL WAS CLR, BUT I SHOULD AUTOMATICALLY TURN ONTO TXWY A. I TOLD HIM THAT HIS INSTRUCTIONS SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLR AT TXWY H, R TURN ON TXWY A, CONTACT GND. HE SAID THAT WAS ONLY FOR NEW CARRIERS -- AND WE SHOULD DO THAT WITHOUT INSTRUCTION. HE FELT I WAS DELIBERATELY TRYING TO CAUSE AN INCIDENT AND ASKED WHY I WASN'T TRYING TO HELP HIM OUT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.