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Attributes | |
ACN | 569268 |
Time | |
Date | 200212 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 185 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 569268 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 3 |
Resolutory Action | controller : separated traffic |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
We were told by the tower to cross runway 24L via A7 and hold short of runway 24R. Air carrier Y airbus was in position and holding on runway 24L. Prior to holding short of runway 24R, tower said 'XXXX keep it rolling and you are cleared for takeoff on runway 24R.' next, tower said 'air carrier Y cleared for takeoff runway 24L.' we were rolling down the runway side-by-side with air carrier Y airbus. I did have the traffic in sight the whole time. My question is: was this a legal clearance given by the tower? And if so, should the tower have asked one of us to maintain a visual?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LAX LCL CTLR DEPARTS ACFT OFF RWY 24L AND RWY 24R SIDE-BY.
Narrative: WE WERE TOLD BY THE TWR TO CROSS RWY 24L VIA A7 AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 24R. ACR Y AIRBUS WAS IN POS AND HOLDING ON RWY 24L. PRIOR TO HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 24R, TWR SAID 'XXXX KEEP IT ROLLING AND YOU ARE CLRED FOR TKOF ON RWY 24R.' NEXT, TWR SAID 'ACR Y CLRED FOR TKOF RWY 24L.' WE WERE ROLLING DOWN THE RWY SIDE-BY-SIDE WITH ACR Y AIRBUS. I DID HAVE THE TFC IN SIGHT THE WHOLE TIME. MY QUESTION IS: WAS THIS A LEGAL CLRNC GIVEN BY THE TWR? AND IF SO, SHOULD THE TWR HAVE ASKED ONE OF US TO MAINTAIN A VISUAL?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.