<< >> NASA ASRS Report 570338, January 2003

A very low time C172 pilot, trying to lead a flight of 4, crossed runway 27R at see, without permission.

Attributes
ACN	570338
Time
Date	200301
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : see.airport
State Reference	CA
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	ground : taxi ground : holding
Flight Plan	VFR
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tower : see.tower
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Flight Phase	ground : takeoff roll
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 16 flight time total : 508 flight time type : 136
ASRS Report	570338
Person 2
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

I was the lead plane in a flight of 4 aircraft. We were separated on the ramp apron, partly due to a jet departing from the same apron. I called ground and asked to taxi the flight to runway 27L. I thought I heard and read back 'cleared to taxi runway 27L via taxiway C.' thinking I was cleared all the way across both active runways 27R&left, I taxied onto taxiway C and turned at taxiway B and instinctively held short of runway 27R and looked at the rest of my flight. The airplane assigned #3 had taxied onto taxiway C and stopped awaiting #2, which was still in its original position. I waited a while, thinking #2 had a problem. Meanwhile, the jet received its IFR release and was moving onto, or toward, the runway. I, still thinking I was cleared across runway 27R, and in the way of the soon departing jet, checked for landing traffic and crossed runway 27R.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A VERY LOW TIME C172 PLT, TRYING TO LEAD A FLT OF 4, CROSSED RWY 27R AT SEE, WITHOUT PERMISSION.

Narrative: I WAS THE LEAD PLANE IN A FLT OF 4 ACFT. WE WERE SEPARATED ON THE RAMP APRON, PARTLY DUE TO A JET DEPARTING FROM THE SAME APRON. I CALLED GND AND ASKED TO TAXI THE FLT TO RWY 27L. I THOUGHT I HEARD AND READ BACK 'CLRED TO TAXI RWY 27L VIA TXWY C.' THINKING I WAS CLRED ALL THE WAY ACROSS BOTH ACTIVE RWYS 27R&L, I TAXIED ONTO TXWY C AND TURNED AT TXWY B AND INSTINCTIVELY HELD SHORT OF RWY 27R AND LOOKED AT THE REST OF MY FLT. THE AIRPLANE ASSIGNED #3 HAD TAXIED ONTO TXWY C AND STOPPED AWAITING #2, WHICH WAS STILL IN ITS ORIGINAL POS. I WAITED A WHILE, THINKING #2 HAD A PROB. MEANWHILE, THE JET RECEIVED ITS IFR RELEASE AND WAS MOVING ONTO, OR TOWARD, THE RWY. I, STILL THINKING I WAS CLRED ACROSS RWY 27R, AND IN THE WAY OF THE SOON DEPARTING JET, CHKED FOR LNDG TFC AND CROSSED RWY 27R.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.