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Attributes | |
ACN | 572209 |
Time | |
Date | 200301 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pbi.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : pbi.tower |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 750 flight time type : 650 |
ASRS Report | 572209 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was with a student on an approach and full stop landing at pbi airport, fl. We landed (long) on runway 31. I believe the controller felt that we were able to make the first taxiway at taxiway G, however, due to a displaced threshold and a student pilot landing, we went past taxiway G. Just beyond taxiway G, the controller, in a loud and unprofessional manner, shouted to expedite. We understood that (in the manner, tone that the command was given) to mean off the runway as soon as possible. We thought that another aircraft was landing on runway 31 behind us. We exited on the first intersection that we came to (runway 27R/9L). However, then the controller yelled at the top of her lungs 'expedite' again with no further assistance. I/we then pwred the aircraft (only being on runway 27R/9L for about 10 seconds) and exited off the taxiway F, north of runway 9L/27R. At this junction, we stopped. We were then instructed to perform a 180 degree turn. At this point we did have our airport diagrams out and understood our orientation was on taxiway F. We did see another aircraft on taxiway C and believed that was the reason for the 180 degree turn. However, we discovered later (when on the ground) that the command from the controller to perform the 180 degree turn brought us back over the hold short line of runway 27R/9L. I did react to ensure the safety of the aircraft as a result of the controller's tone. After speaking to the watch supervisor, he did feel that her tone was not appropriate and the aircraft that was cleared for runway 27R was a 'tight approach,' since we were given no hold short instructions prior to runway 27R.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT EXITED RWY 31 ONTO RWY 27R AT PBI AFTER THE ATCT LCL CTLR BECAME UPSET THEY MISSED A LAST SECOND CLRNC TO CLR THE RWY ON TXWY G.
Narrative: I WAS WITH A STUDENT ON AN APCH AND FULL STOP LNDG AT PBI ARPT, FL. WE LANDED (LONG) ON RWY 31. I BELIEVE THE CTLR FELT THAT WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE THE FIRST TXWY AT TXWY G, HOWEVER, DUE TO A DISPLACED THRESHOLD AND A STUDENT PLT LNDG, WE WENT PAST TXWY G. JUST BEYOND TXWY G, THE CTLR, IN A LOUD AND UNPROFESSIONAL MANNER, SHOUTED TO EXPEDITE. WE UNDERSTOOD THAT (IN THE MANNER, TONE THAT THE COMMAND WAS GIVEN) TO MEAN OFF THE RWY ASAP. WE THOUGHT THAT ANOTHER ACFT WAS LNDG ON RWY 31 BEHIND US. WE EXITED ON THE FIRST INTXN THAT WE CAME TO (RWY 27R/9L). HOWEVER, THEN THE CTLR YELLED AT THE TOP OF HER LUNGS 'EXPEDITE' AGAIN WITH NO FURTHER ASSISTANCE. I/WE THEN PWRED THE ACFT (ONLY BEING ON RWY 27R/9L FOR ABOUT 10 SECONDS) AND EXITED OFF THE TXWY F, N OF RWY 9L/27R. AT THIS JUNCTION, WE STOPPED. WE WERE THEN INSTRUCTED TO PERFORM A 180 DEG TURN. AT THIS POINT WE DID HAVE OUR ARPT DIAGRAMS OUT AND UNDERSTOOD OUR ORIENTATION WAS ON TXWY F. WE DID SEE ANOTHER ACFT ON TXWY C AND BELIEVED THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE 180 DEG TURN. HOWEVER, WE DISCOVERED LATER (WHEN ON THE GND) THAT THE COMMAND FROM THE CTLR TO PERFORM THE 180 DEG TURN BROUGHT US BACK OVER THE HOLD SHORT LINE OF RWY 27R/9L. I DID REACT TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THE ACFT AS A RESULT OF THE CTLR'S TONE. AFTER SPEAKING TO THE WATCH SUPVR, HE DID FEEL THAT HER TONE WAS NOT APPROPRIATE AND THE ACFT THAT WAS CLRED FOR RWY 27R WAS A 'TIGHT APCH,' SINCE WE WERE GIVEN NO HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTIONS PRIOR TO RWY 27R.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.