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Attributes | |
ACN | 572986 |
Time | |
Date | 200301 |
Day | Fri |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jfk.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Rain other |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 4r |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 572986 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
ASRS Report | 572984 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
On descent into jfk, we were told by new york approach control to expect the ILS to runway 4L. The runway 4L ILS was reported on the jfk ATIS as the landing runway for at least the last 2 hours. The runway 4L ILS approach was briefed, programmed, tuned and idented. The WX was reported as 800 ft broken, 1700 ft overcast, 1 1/2 mi visibility with light rain and mist. While in IMC, level at 1500 ft and being vectored for the approach, very close to the FAF, we were told to intercept and fly the runway 4R ILS. We questioned the controller, but he insisted that we were to fly the runway 4R ILS approach. We then complied with his instructions and while resetting all the navaids and turning to intercept and fly the runway 4R approach we may not have received a proper landing clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B767 ARR AT JFK LWOC BY ATC.
Narrative: ON DSCNT INTO JFK, WE WERE TOLD BY NEW YORK APCH CTL TO EXPECT THE ILS TO RWY 4L. THE RWY 4L ILS WAS RPTED ON THE JFK ATIS AS THE LNDG RWY FOR AT LEAST THE LAST 2 HRS. THE RWY 4L ILS APCH WAS BRIEFED, PROGRAMMED, TUNED AND IDENTED. THE WX WAS RPTED AS 800 FT BROKEN, 1700 FT OVCST, 1 1/2 MI VISIBILITY WITH LIGHT RAIN AND MIST. WHILE IN IMC, LEVEL AT 1500 FT AND BEING VECTORED FOR THE APCH, VERY CLOSE TO THE FAF, WE WERE TOLD TO INTERCEPT AND FLY THE RWY 4R ILS. WE QUESTIONED THE CTLR, BUT HE INSISTED THAT WE WERE TO FLY THE RWY 4R ILS APCH. WE THEN COMPLIED WITH HIS INSTRUCTIONS AND WHILE RESETTING ALL THE NAVAIDS AND TURNING TO INTERCEPT AND FLY THE RWY 4R APCH WE MAY NOT HAVE RECEIVED A PROPER LNDG CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.