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Attributes | |
ACN | 573923 |
Time | |
Date | 200302 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sfo.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 2900 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Turbulence |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : nct.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 10500 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 573923 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was conducting a VFR flight from auburn, ca, to san carlos, ca. There was moderate turbulence below 2500 ft MSL due to strong northeast winds. While descending below the sfo class B airspace. I attempted to receive a descent through the class B airspace. The sierra approach controller said he was unable. I continued my descent below the class B airspace, leveling at 2900 ft MSL at 15 NM from sfo VOR. My plan was to remain at 2900 ft until I had to begin a descent to cross the sfo VOR 10 DME fix below 2100 ft MSL. A different controller than the one I had been in contact with, told me to begin a descent to 2500 ft MSL and that I was in the class B airspace. I responded by saying that I was level at 2900 ft. All she (the controller) said was that was not correct. We did not have time to discuss this over this particularly busy frequency. The original controller then returned to the frequency and handed me to oak tower. I have and was using the current area chart for VFR use in san francisco. Between the sfo VOR 10-15 DME the class B base is 3000 ft. Thus, I was flying at 2900 ft. A common instruction from sierra approach is to maintain 2500 ft on this route. However, upon initial contact with sierra approach, the controller did not instruct me to maintain 2500 ft. So, I remained clear of the sfo class B airspace. I thought that there might be a difference between controllers with the 'new' combined approach facilities called 'sierra approach.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA28 INBOUND TO SQL IS INFORMED BY ATC OF CLASS B ENTRY.
Narrative: I WAS CONDUCTING A VFR FLT FROM AUBURN, CA, TO SAN CARLOS, CA. THERE WAS MODERATE TURB BELOW 2500 FT MSL DUE TO STRONG NE WINDS. WHILE DSNDING BELOW THE SFO CLASS B AIRSPACE. I ATTEMPTED TO RECEIVE A DSCNT THROUGH THE CLASS B AIRSPACE. THE SIERRA APCH CTLR SAID HE WAS UNABLE. I CONTINUED MY DSCNT BELOW THE CLASS B AIRSPACE, LEVELING AT 2900 FT MSL AT 15 NM FROM SFO VOR. MY PLAN WAS TO REMAIN AT 2900 FT UNTIL I HAD TO BEGIN A DSCNT TO CROSS THE SFO VOR 10 DME FIX BELOW 2100 FT MSL. A DIFFERENT CTLR THAN THE ONE I HAD BEEN IN CONTACT WITH, TOLD ME TO BEGIN A DSCNT TO 2500 FT MSL AND THAT I WAS IN THE CLASS B AIRSPACE. I RESPONDED BY SAYING THAT I WAS LEVEL AT 2900 FT. ALL SHE (THE CTLR) SAID WAS THAT WAS NOT CORRECT. WE DID NOT HAVE TIME TO DISCUSS THIS OVER THIS PARTICULARLY BUSY FREQ. THE ORIGINAL CTLR THEN RETURNED TO THE FREQ AND HANDED ME TO OAK TWR. I HAVE AND WAS USING THE CURRENT AREA CHART FOR VFR USE IN SAN FRANCISCO. BTWN THE SFO VOR 10-15 DME THE CLASS B BASE IS 3000 FT. THUS, I WAS FLYING AT 2900 FT. A COMMON INSTRUCTION FROM SIERRA APCH IS TO MAINTAIN 2500 FT ON THIS RTE. HOWEVER, UPON INITIAL CONTACT WITH SIERRA APCH, THE CTLR DID NOT INSTRUCT ME TO MAINTAIN 2500 FT. SO, I REMAINED CLR OF THE SFO CLASS B AIRSPACE. I THOUGHT THAT THERE MIGHT BE A DIFFERENCE BTWN CTLRS WITH THE 'NEW' COMBINED APCH FACILITIES CALLED 'SIERRA APCH.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.