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Attributes | |
ACN | 574481 |
Time | |
Date | 200302 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : luxor |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11600 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon tower : ind.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : ksino.rnav |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 18500 flight time type : 1800 |
ASRS Report | 574481 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllerb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On the arrival route to las vegas ATC cleared us to proceed direct to luxor fix and the remainder of the ksino RNAV 2 arrival. Shortly thereafter, we were cleared to cross luxor at 12000 ft and 250 KTS. After meeting the luxor requirements, both pilots thought we had been cleared to descend to the next crossing altitude on the arrival, which was 10000 ft. At 11600 ft, ATC told us to climb back to and maintain 12000 ft, which we immediately did. The remainder of the approach and landing in las vegas was standard and routine. As in our case, a clearance to fly a STAR route only, as opposed to flying the route and descending to the published fix crossing altitudes, can be misunderstood. We were led to believe that the latter was the case. After clearing us to the luxor fix and to the published luxor altitude and speed. More verbiage from the controller might have prevented the further descent.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR DSNDS WITHOUT CLRNC ON THE KSINO RNAV 2 ARR TO LAS, NV.
Narrative: ON THE ARR RTE TO LAS VEGAS ATC CLRED US TO PROCEED DIRECT TO LUXOR FIX AND THE REMAINDER OF THE KSINO RNAV 2 ARR. SHORTLY THEREAFTER, WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS LUXOR AT 12000 FT AND 250 KTS. AFTER MEETING THE LUXOR REQUIREMENTS, BOTH PLTS THOUGHT WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO DSND TO THE NEXT XING ALT ON THE ARR, WHICH WAS 10000 FT. AT 11600 FT, ATC TOLD US TO CLB BACK TO AND MAINTAIN 12000 FT, WHICH WE IMMEDIATELY DID. THE REMAINDER OF THE APCH AND LNDG IN LAS VEGAS WAS STANDARD AND ROUTINE. AS IN OUR CASE, A CLRNC TO FLY A STAR RTE ONLY, AS OPPOSED TO FLYING THE RTE AND DSNDING TO THE PUBLISHED FIX XING ALTS, CAN BE MISUNDERSTOOD. WE WERE LED TO BELIEVE THAT THE LATTER WAS THE CASE. AFTER CLRING US TO THE LUXOR FIX AND TO THE PUBLISHED LUXOR ALT AND SPD. MORE VERBIAGE FROM THE CTLR MIGHT HAVE PREVENTED THE FURTHER DSCNT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.