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Attributes | |
ACN | 574581 |
Time | |
Date | 200302 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : tigrr |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid.artcc tracon : cvg.tracon tower : las.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : cince 4 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 574581 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | aircraft : automation overrode flight crew flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After being leveled at FL180, we were given a clearance to cross tigrr intersection at 11000 ft on the cince 4 arrival to cvg. We leveled at 11000 ft, passed tigrr, and were handed off to cincinnati approach. After checking in, I realized we had not set our altimeters to the local setting. We were still using 29.92. When set correctly, our altimeters showed us to be at 11300 ft. I corrected the error immediately. Nothing was ever said by any controller. No traffic conflicts arose. The CL65 instrumentation system flashes the altimeter setting on the EFIS whenever you go through FL180. This is usually helpful as a reminder, but a bit annoying when you cruise at FL180. Usually, I leave it flashing when we do an intermediate leveloff at FL180 during a descent. This helps prevent mistakes like what I am describing. On this night, however, I evidently pushed the center of the barometer knob to cancel the flashing. I don't remember doing it. It would have been helpful if we would have run the 'descent' checklist when we left FL180, like we are supposed to do. There may have been some minor distraction. I'm sure another factor was that we were both tired. This was the last leg of a 13+ hour duty day that had been full of WX and deicing delays.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LATE RECOGNITION BY CL65 FLT CREW TO CORRECT ALTIMETER SETTING DSNDING THROUGH FL180 CAUSES INTXN UNDERSHOOT WHEN ON APCH TO CVG.
Narrative: AFTER BEING LEVELED AT FL180, WE WERE GIVEN A CLRNC TO CROSS TIGRR INTXN AT 11000 FT ON THE CINCE 4 ARR TO CVG. WE LEVELED AT 11000 FT, PASSED TIGRR, AND WERE HANDED OFF TO CINCINNATI APCH. AFTER CHKING IN, I REALIZED WE HAD NOT SET OUR ALTIMETERS TO THE LCL SETTING. WE WERE STILL USING 29.92. WHEN SET CORRECTLY, OUR ALTIMETERS SHOWED US TO BE AT 11300 FT. I CORRECTED THE ERROR IMMEDIATELY. NOTHING WAS EVER SAID BY ANY CTLR. NO TFC CONFLICTS AROSE. THE CL65 INSTRUMENTATION SYS FLASHES THE ALTIMETER SETTING ON THE EFIS WHENEVER YOU GO THROUGH FL180. THIS IS USUALLY HELPFUL AS A REMINDER, BUT A BIT ANNOYING WHEN YOU CRUISE AT FL180. USUALLY, I LEAVE IT FLASHING WHEN WE DO AN INTERMEDIATE LEVELOFF AT FL180 DURING A DSCNT. THIS HELPS PREVENT MISTAKES LIKE WHAT I AM DESCRIBING. ON THIS NIGHT, HOWEVER, I EVIDENTLY PUSHED THE CTR OF THE BAROMETER KNOB TO CANCEL THE FLASHING. I DON'T REMEMBER DOING IT. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HELPFUL IF WE WOULD HAVE RUN THE 'DSCNT' CHKLIST WHEN WE LEFT FL180, LIKE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME MINOR DISTR. I'M SURE ANOTHER FACTOR WAS THAT WE WERE BOTH TIRED. THIS WAS THE LAST LEG OF A 13+ HR DUTY DAY THAT HAD BEEN FULL OF WX AND DEICING DELAYS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.