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Attributes | |
ACN | 575334 |
Time | |
Date | 200303 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cyul.airport |
State Reference | PQ |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 5455 flight time type : 3110 |
ASRS Report | 575334 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Situations | |
Airport | lighting : cyul.airport markings : cyul.airport signage : cyul.airport |
Narrative:
Ground told us to taxi to runway 28 via taxiway A4 and taxiway a. En route to runway 28 on taxiway a, and prior to the standard 2 pair of yellow 'wig-wag' lights with their associated hold markings and signs, we encountered 2 pair of steady-burning, yellow lights with no associated signage. Since there were no signs, we continued forward to the standard marked runway hold position. ATC did not complain, but in retrospect, especially since this is a foreign airport, it would have been much smarter to stop and ask for clarification. The steady-burning, yellow lights were not in boxes like the wig-wag lights. Rather, they were just yellow bulbs, like blue taxi lights, only yellow and in pairs.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CL65 ENCOUNTERED NON STANDARD RWY AND TXWY LIGHTING AT CYUL.
Narrative: GND TOLD US TO TAXI TO RWY 28 VIA TXWY A4 AND TXWY A. ENRTE TO RWY 28 ON TXWY A, AND PRIOR TO THE STANDARD 2 PAIR OF YELLOW 'WIG-WAG' LIGHTS WITH THEIR ASSOCIATED HOLD MARKINGS AND SIGNS, WE ENCOUNTERED 2 PAIR OF STEADY-BURNING, YELLOW LIGHTS WITH NO ASSOCIATED SIGNAGE. SINCE THERE WERE NO SIGNS, WE CONTINUED FORWARD TO THE STANDARD MARKED RWY HOLD POS. ATC DID NOT COMPLAIN, BUT IN RETROSPECT, ESPECIALLY SINCE THIS IS A FOREIGN ARPT, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH SMARTER TO STOP AND ASK FOR CLARIFICATION. THE STEADY-BURNING, YELLOW LIGHTS WERE NOT IN BOXES LIKE THE WIG-WAG LIGHTS. RATHER, THEY WERE JUST YELLOW BULBS, LIKE BLUE TAXI LIGHTS, ONLY YELLOW AND IN PAIRS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.