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Attributes | |
ACN | 578047 |
Time | |
Date | 200304 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : dpk.vor |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Snow |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon tower : hvn.tower |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Cessna 340/340A |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 2060 |
ASRS Report | 578047 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllerb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On patrol at 1000 ft vicinity of hvn wbound. WX MVFR. At hpn, WX was IFR. We contacted ny approach 126.95, then mvn tower for class D clearance. We put our request for IFR clearance with 126.95. Hvn tower came back to us with clearance. We confirmed and climbed contacting 126.95, who accepted us with discrete permanent transponder code. Two controllers later, at 6000 ft, controller asked if we were IFR. We replied affirmative. He asked if were filed with FSS. We replied, 'it was a pop up with 126.95 outside ADIZ.' he said we need to contact FSS in the future, because he had nothing in the system. I called ATC watch desk supervisor TRACON and he said there was no problem with our procedure.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C340 MIL FLC ENTERS NY ADIZ PRIOR TO RECEIVING A PROPER CLRNC FROM AN FSS.
Narrative: ON PATROL AT 1000 FT VICINITY OF HVN WBOUND. WX MVFR. AT HPN, WX WAS IFR. WE CONTACTED NY APCH 126.95, THEN MVN TWR FOR CLASS D CLRNC. WE PUT OUR REQUEST FOR IFR CLRNC WITH 126.95. HVN TWR CAME BACK TO US WITH CLRNC. WE CONFIRMED AND CLBED CONTACTING 126.95, WHO ACCEPTED US WITH DISCRETE PERMANENT XPONDER CODE. TWO CTLRS LATER, AT 6000 FT, CTLR ASKED IF WE WERE IFR. WE REPLIED AFFIRMATIVE. HE ASKED IF WERE FILED WITH FSS. WE REPLIED, 'IT WAS A POP UP WITH 126.95 OUTSIDE ADIZ.' HE SAID WE NEED TO CONTACT FSS IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE HE HAD NOTHING IN THE SYSTEM. I CALLED ATC WATCH DESK SUPVR TRACON AND HE SAID THERE WAS NO PROB WITH OUR PROC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.