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Potential ground conflict when air carrier X assumes position and hold for runway 18L when cleared into position for runway 18R at mco, fl.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 578529 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200304 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mco.airport |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : mco.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A321 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : position and hold ground : taxi ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : mco.tower |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8800 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 578529 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 8800 flight time type : 400 |
| ASRS Report | 578641 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : separated traffic controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance flight crew : executed go around other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On taxi out from mco, our clearance was 'taxi to runway 18L via taxiway C.' we acknowledged. We called ready for takeoff approaching runway 18L. At the end of runway 18L, we were instructed to 'hold short of runway 18L, traffic turning final.' we replied 'hold short of runway 18L, air carrier X.' the next clearance we heard was, 'air carrier X, traffic to cross runway 18L/18R, position and hold.' we read back, 'position and hold runway 18L, air carrier X.' we taxied into position runway 18L. 30 seconds later, tower said 'air carrier X, confirm you are taxiing across runway 18L.' we replied, 'negative, we are holding runway 18L.' there was an aircraft on short final for runway 18L. Tower instructed us to taxi clear of runway 18L at taxiway B2, which we did, and instructed the aircraft on final to go around. The controllers (ground and tower) never changed our departure runway on taxi out and so our last clearance we had for takeoff was runway 18L. When we were cleared for takeoff later on runway 18L, we heard the tower clear the aircraft holding #1 for runway 18L to 'taxi across runway 18L, runway 18R position and hold.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL GND CONFLICT WHEN ACR X ASSUMES POS AND HOLD FOR RWY 18L WHEN CLRED INTO POS FOR RWY 18R AT MCO, FL.
Narrative: ON TAXI OUT FROM MCO, OUR CLRNC WAS 'TAXI TO RWY 18L VIA TXWY C.' WE ACKNOWLEDGED. WE CALLED READY FOR TKOF APCHING RWY 18L. AT THE END OF RWY 18L, WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO 'HOLD SHORT OF RWY 18L, TFC TURNING FINAL.' WE REPLIED 'HOLD SHORT OF RWY 18L, ACR X.' THE NEXT CLRNC WE HEARD WAS, 'ACR X, TFC TO CROSS RWY 18L/18R, POS AND HOLD.' WE READ BACK, 'POS AND HOLD RWY 18L, ACR X.' WE TAXIED INTO POS RWY 18L. 30 SECONDS LATER, TWR SAID 'ACR X, CONFIRM YOU ARE TAXIING ACROSS RWY 18L.' WE REPLIED, 'NEGATIVE, WE ARE HOLDING RWY 18L.' THERE WAS AN ACFT ON SHORT FINAL FOR RWY 18L. TWR INSTRUCTED US TO TAXI CLR OF RWY 18L AT TXWY B2, WHICH WE DID, AND INSTRUCTED THE ACFT ON FINAL TO GO AROUND. THE CTLRS (GND AND TWR) NEVER CHANGED OUR DEP RWY ON TAXI OUT AND SO OUR LAST CLRNC WE HAD FOR TKOF WAS RWY 18L. WHEN WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF LATER ON RWY 18L, WE HEARD THE TWR CLR THE ACFT HOLDING #1 FOR RWY 18L TO 'TAXI ACROSS RWY 18L, RWY 18R POS AND HOLD.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.