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Airspace incursion when a PA30B commercial pilot enters the disneyworld tfr at 2500 ft, 34 NM on the 027 degree radial of lal, fl.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 578811 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200304 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : lal.vortac |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : mco.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-30 Twin Comanche |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 900 flight time type : 1 |
| ASRS Report | 578811 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : departure |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry inflight encounter other non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Weather Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Were flying VFR from bow in a PA30B, first flight in new aircraft. Knew the disney tfr existed so flew the 027 degree radial from lal VOR to keep from penetrating disney tfr, but were advised by ATC later that we had in fact penetrated it. Could not climb above 2500 ft due to low ceilings. Pilot normally flies IFR, but because this was a new aircraft purchase and unfamiliar equipment decision was later to fly VFR. Based on flight visibility, we also thought we were clear of the 3 NM restr area, but obviously not.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AIRSPACE INCURSION WHEN A PA30B COMMERCIAL PLT ENTERS THE DISNEYWORLD TFR AT 2500 FT, 34 NM ON THE 027 DEG RADIAL OF LAL, FL.
Narrative: WERE FLYING VFR FROM BOW IN A PA30B, FIRST FLT IN NEW ACFT. KNEW THE DISNEY TFR EXISTED SO FLEW THE 027 DEG RADIAL FROM LAL VOR TO KEEP FROM PENETRATING DISNEY TFR, BUT WERE ADVISED BY ATC LATER THAT WE HAD IN FACT PENETRATED IT. COULD NOT CLB ABOVE 2500 FT DUE TO LOW CEILINGS. PLT NORMALLY FLIES IFR, BUT BECAUSE THIS WAS A NEW ACFT PURCHASE AND UNFAMILIAR EQUIPMENT DECISION WAS LATER TO FLY VFR. BASED ON FLT VISIBILITY, WE ALSO THOUGHT WE WERE CLR OF THE 3 NM RESTR AREA, BUT OBVIOUSLY NOT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.