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Attributes | |
ACN | 580136 |
Time | |
Date | 200303 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl single value : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Jetstar 1329 (C140) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : teb 5 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 580136 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Departure from teb, runway 24 calls for runway heading to 1500 ft MSL, then right to 280 degrees. Noise abatement procedure requires thrust cutback resulting in 500-700 FPM climb rate. Upon contact with TRACON, we were issued 'direct brezy.' I complied. In the right turn ATC gave us a 090 degree heading. (About 20 degrees further right). Shortly after, he asked if we were having trouble finding brezy. I responded no, we were assigned 090 degrees. I then observed an MD80 approximately 2 mi off my left wing and advised we would be unable brezy until clear of that traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AFTER DEPARTING TEB, THE CREW OF A L29A FLT RECEIVED A CONFUSING CLRNC FROM ATC.
Narrative: DEP FROM TEB, RWY 24 CALLS FOR RWY HEADING TO 1500 FT MSL, THEN R TO 280 DEGS. NOISE ABATEMENT PROC REQUIRES THRUST CUTBACK RESULTING IN 500-700 FPM CLB RATE. UPON CONTACT WITH TRACON, WE WERE ISSUED 'DIRECT BREZY.' I COMPLIED. IN THE R TURN ATC GAVE US A 090 DEG HDG. (ABOUT 20 DEGS FURTHER R). SHORTLY AFTER, HE ASKED IF WE WERE HAVING TROUBLE FINDING BREZY. I RESPONDED NO, WE WERE ASSIGNED 090 DEGS. I THEN OBSERVED AN MD80 APPROX 2 MI OFF MY L WING AND ADVISED WE WOULD BE UNABLE BREZY UNTIL CLR OF THAT TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.