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Attributes | |
ACN | 580832 |
Time | |
Date | 200305 |
Day | Sat |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : scel.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767-300 and 300 ER |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
ASRS Report | 580832 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | other |
Narrative:
Unsatisfactory crew rest facility. B767 2-CLASS confign. B767B 2-CLASS confign business class seat is an unsatisfactory facility for crew rest. The seat is too small and does not extend to a long enough position for larger people. The seat back does not recline back far enough and the leg rest does not rise high enough. The end result is that if you are fortunate enough to doze off you will be awakened by some discomfort. I woke up with pins and needles in my arms and legs because the poor seat position cut off circulation. Not only does this promote fatigue, but it is unhealthy as well. The cockpit seat promotes sleep better than this. When I brought this to the attention of a chief pilot, he said 'don't expect this to change any time soon.' it is both unbelievable and unconscionable that a company that -- not too long ago -- had a fatal mishap attributed to fatigue, would consider this seat appropriate even after numerous reports from operating crews to the contrary. We were told in training, addressing rest and fatigue strategies, that the subject would be approached from the standpoint of science. What science has established this seat as an adequate rest facility. Now is time to fix this problem, before we have another incident or mishap caused by fatigue.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B767-300 CAPT WAS NOT ABLE TO REST PROPERLY ON THE CREW BREAK BECAUSE NO CREW REST BUNKS ARE PROVIDED BY THE ACR OR REQUIRED BY THE FAA. THE PLT ON RELIEF BREAK IS STUFFED INTO A PAX SEAT AND TOLD TO REST.
Narrative: UNSATISFACTORY CREW REST FACILITY. B767 2-CLASS CONFIGN. B767B 2-CLASS CONFIGN BUSINESS CLASS SEAT IS AN UNSATISFACTORY FACILITY FOR CREW REST. THE SEAT IS TOO SMALL AND DOES NOT EXTEND TO A LONG ENOUGH POS FOR LARGER PEOPLE. THE SEAT BACK DOES NOT RECLINE BACK FAR ENOUGH AND THE LEG REST DOES NOT RISE HIGH ENOUGH. THE END RESULT IS THAT IF YOU ARE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO DOZE OFF YOU WILL BE AWAKENED BY SOME DISCOMFORT. I WOKE UP WITH PINS AND NEEDLES IN MY ARMS AND LEGS BECAUSE THE POOR SEAT POS CUT OFF CIRCULATION. NOT ONLY DOES THIS PROMOTE FATIGUE, BUT IT IS UNHEALTHY AS WELL. THE COCKPIT SEAT PROMOTES SLEEP BETTER THAN THIS. WHEN I BROUGHT THIS TO THE ATTN OF A CHIEF PLT, HE SAID 'DON'T EXPECT THIS TO CHANGE ANY TIME SOON.' IT IS BOTH UNBELIEVABLE AND UNCONSCIONABLE THAT A COMPANY THAT -- NOT TOO LONG AGO -- HAD A FATAL MISHAP ATTRIBUTED TO FATIGUE, WOULD CONSIDER THIS SEAT APPROPRIATE EVEN AFTER NUMEROUS RPTS FROM OPERATING CREWS TO THE CONTRARY. WE WERE TOLD IN TRAINING, ADDRESSING REST AND FATIGUE STRATEGIES, THAT THE SUBJECT WOULD BE APCHED FROM THE STANDPOINT OF SCIENCE. WHAT SCIENCE HAS ESTABLISHED THIS SEAT AS AN ADEQUATE REST FACILITY. NOW IS TIME TO FIX THIS PROB, BEFORE WE HAVE ANOTHER INCIDENT OR MISHAP CAUSED BY FATIGUE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.