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Attributes | |
ACN | 584327 |
Time | |
Date | 200306 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cae.airport |
State Reference | SC |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Challenger CL600 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 1100 |
ASRS Report | 584327 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
This was a deadhead portion of a flight and the first officer was the PF. The first officer has less than 10 hours experience in the airplane. The first officer was about 5 KTS over vref and landed long and did not apply the brakes early. At no point were we in danger of rolling off the end of the runway. However, we rolled to very near the end. The tower controller was not busy and was very casual with his handling of us. The controller said, 'I see you have rolled long, that means you must be going to the FBO at the end of the runway.' I told the first officer that we were going to ZZZ aviation and that we had passed it during the landing roll. The tower controller then said, 'exit the runway and stay with me.' I did exactly that by making the very next left onto runway 5 (we had landed on runway 11). The controller then said he meant for me to turn left at the end of the runway and that runways 5/23 were active and in the future if I wanted to taxi onto them I should ask. The issue that troubled me is that our landing rollout terminated right where runways 11 and 5 intersect. If runway 5 was really active we were at taxi speed and crossing over runway 5 whether we turned onto it or merely taxied across it. Either way we were very nearly at a stop and were lingering at the intersection of the 2 runways for several seconds.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AFTER LNDG LONG AND ROLLING TO THE FAR END OF RWY 11, THE CL60 CREW WAS INSTRUCTED TO TURN OFF AT THE NEXT (LAST) EXIT. THE PLT TURNED OFF ONTO RWY 5-23.
Narrative: THIS WAS A DEADHEAD PORTION OF A FLT AND THE FO WAS THE PF. THE FO HAS LESS THAN 10 HRS EXPERIENCE IN THE AIRPLANE. THE FO WAS ABOUT 5 KTS OVER VREF AND LANDED LONG AND DID NOT APPLY THE BRAKES EARLY. AT NO POINT WERE WE IN DANGER OF ROLLING OFF THE END OF THE RWY. HOWEVER, WE ROLLED TO VERY NEAR THE END. THE TWR CTLR WAS NOT BUSY AND WAS VERY CASUAL WITH HIS HANDLING OF US. THE CTLR SAID, 'I SEE YOU HAVE ROLLED LONG, THAT MEANS YOU MUST BE GOING TO THE FBO AT THE END OF THE RWY.' I TOLD THE FO THAT WE WERE GOING TO ZZZ AVIATION AND THAT WE HAD PASSED IT DURING THE LNDG ROLL. THE TWR CTLR THEN SAID, 'EXIT THE RWY AND STAY WITH ME.' I DID EXACTLY THAT BY MAKING THE VERY NEXT L ONTO RWY 5 (WE HAD LANDED ON RWY 11). THE CTLR THEN SAID HE MEANT FOR ME TO TURN L AT THE END OF THE RWY AND THAT RWYS 5/23 WERE ACTIVE AND IN THE FUTURE IF I WANTED TO TAXI ONTO THEM I SHOULD ASK. THE ISSUE THAT TROUBLED ME IS THAT OUR LNDG ROLLOUT TERMINATED RIGHT WHERE RWYS 11 AND 5 INTERSECT. IF RWY 5 WAS REALLY ACTIVE WE WERE AT TAXI SPD AND XING OVER RWY 5 WHETHER WE TURNED ONTO IT OR MERELY TAXIED ACROSS IT. EITHER WAY WE WERE VERY NEARLY AT A STOP AND WERE LINGERING AT THE INTXN OF THE 2 RWYS FOR SEVERAL SECONDS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.