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Attributes | |
ACN | 587694 |
Time | |
Date | 200307 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : sea.vortac |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4500 msl bound upper : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : s46.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-700 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : mountain five |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : s46.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors departure sid : n/s |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 214 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 2200 |
ASRS Report | 587700 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 12200 flight time type : 5600 |
ASRS Report | 587700 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : separated traffic controller : issued new clearance flight crew : overrode automation |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance Company |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Cleared sea to ZZZ on mountain 5 departure, which flies sea 341 degree radial to 8 DME right turn 070 degree heading. This departure is not in the FMC. I manually entered the sea 341 degree radial/8 mi fix as 341 degree radial at 6 DME. Mistake #1. Because of the sharp turn, the autoplt, with LNAV engaged, started the turn a touch too early. When we turned early departure brought it to our attention (we were still in the turn and told us to roll out as heading 050 degrees and stop climb at 8 DME. No unusual maneuvers were required. I learned a few things: don't program your own departure. Watch out for automation dependence. We need this departure in the database, if FMC/LNAV can fly a heading on an arrival and have fly over points, why not on a departure? Supplemental information from acn 587700: we departed behind company who was climbing much faster than we were. Departure control advised us that company ahead would be turning right, and climbing out over us (we were departing on runway 34R). While watching company ahead, I engaged the autoplt and LNAV, using our manually inputted waypoint. I missed the waypoint entry at 6.0 instead of 8.0 on preflight and was concentrating on remaining clear of company turning into us during his climb. I should have caught the early turn, but was distraction by departure's call about company turning towards us during climb out.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF B737 TURNED AT 6 DME VICE 8 DME WHILE FLYING RWY 34 MOUNTAIN DEP FROM SEA. PROC WAS MANUALLY ENTERED INTO FMC ACCOUNT NOT IN ACR'S DATABASE.
Narrative: CLRED SEA TO ZZZ ON MOUNTAIN 5 DEP, WHICH FLIES SEA 341 DEG RADIAL TO 8 DME R TURN 070 DEG HDG. THIS DEP IS NOT IN THE FMC. I MANUALLY ENTERED THE SEA 341 DEG RADIAL/8 MI FIX AS 341 DEG RADIAL AT 6 DME. MISTAKE #1. BECAUSE OF THE SHARP TURN, THE AUTOPLT, WITH LNAV ENGAGED, STARTED THE TURN A TOUCH TOO EARLY. WHEN WE TURNED EARLY DEP BROUGHT IT TO OUR ATTN (WE WERE STILL IN THE TURN AND TOLD US TO ROLL OUT AS HDG 050 DEGS AND STOP CLB AT 8 DME. NO UNUSUAL MANEUVERS WERE REQUIRED. I LEARNED A FEW THINGS: DON'T PROGRAM YOUR OWN DEP. WATCH OUT FOR AUTOMATION DEPENDENCE. WE NEED THIS DEP IN THE DATABASE, IF FMC/LNAV CAN FLY A HDG ON AN ARR AND HAVE FLY OVER POINTS, WHY NOT ON A DEP? SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 587700: WE DEPARTED BEHIND COMPANY WHO WAS CLBING MUCH FASTER THAN WE WERE. DEP CTL ADVISED US THAT COMPANY AHEAD WOULD BE TURNING R, AND CLBING OUT OVER US (WE WERE DEPARTING ON RWY 34R). WHILE WATCHING COMPANY AHEAD, I ENGAGED THE AUTOPLT AND LNAV, USING OUR MANUALLY INPUTTED WAYPOINT. I MISSED THE WAYPOINT ENTRY AT 6.0 INSTEAD OF 8.0 ON PREFLT AND WAS CONCENTRATING ON REMAINING CLR OF COMPANY TURNING INTO US DURING HIS CLB. I SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT THE EARLY TURN, BUT WAS DISTR BY DEP'S CALL ABOUT COMPANY TURNING TOWARDS US DURING CLBOUT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.