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Attributes | |
ACN | 589312 |
Time | |
Date | 200308 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : fpr.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Thunderstorm |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi ground : holding |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : fpr.tower |
Make Model Name | King Air 100 A/B |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi ground : position and hold |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 2100 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 589312 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 36 flight time total : 36 flight time type : 36 |
ASRS Report | 589942 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe ground encounters other incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera other controllerb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On aug/sat/03, at approximately XA25, my student and I returned after a cross country check flight that didn't go well. After vacating the runway at taxiway B we were told to taxi on taxiway B to taxiway D and hold short of runway 14. As we taxied down taxiway B I was mentally reviewing the flight and trying to determine how best to explain the flight to the student and write it up in his syllabus. In addition, fpr ground was directing other traffic that did not involve us so I returned my attention back to mentally reviewing the flight. When we turned onto taxiway D, I placed my focus back on taxiing since we were no longer traveling straight. As the student pulled up to the hold short line it seemed as if he was not going to stop so I had taken the controls and started to hold short. I then asked my student if we had been cleared across runway 14. He said, 'yes we are cleared.' as I released the brake and returned the controls to the student I asked, 'are you sure?' because I saw a king air taxiing into position to hold. Very adamantly the student responded, 'yes, yes I am sure.' I assumed that during ground's instructions to the other aircraft that I had simply missed our crossing clearance. After crossing runway 14, ground contacted us on the other side to inform us that we just crossed in front of departing traffic. At this point there was nothing I could do but apologize and ask for a phone number to contact them. I don't' think any regulatory action is needed. I think both the student and I were distraction with a poor performance that resulted in our attention being diverted elsewhere. In addition, I, as the instructor, should have verified the clearance with ground if there was any doubt, especially after such a poor student performance. I will review the runway incursion information I received in the mail from the FAA to refresh my memory. I will also change my behavior to avoid distrs while observing a student during taxi and be concerned with the postflt briefing after we are back in the classroom.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA28 INSTRUCTOR PLT AND STUDENT HAD A RWY INCURSION AFTER THEY TAXIED IN FRONT OF A KING AIR AT FPR.
Narrative: ON AUG/SAT/03, AT APPROX XA25, MY STUDENT AND I RETURNED AFTER A XCOUNTRY CHK FLT THAT DIDN'T GO WELL. AFTER VACATING THE RWY AT TXWY B WE WERE TOLD TO TAXI ON TXWY B TO TXWY D AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 14. AS WE TAXIED DOWN TXWY B I WAS MENTALLY REVIEWING THE FLT AND TRYING TO DETERMINE HOW BEST TO EXPLAIN THE FLT TO THE STUDENT AND WRITE IT UP IN HIS SYLLABUS. IN ADDITION, FPR GND WAS DIRECTING OTHER TFC THAT DID NOT INVOLVE US SO I RETURNED MY ATTN BACK TO MENTALLY REVIEWING THE FLT. WHEN WE TURNED ONTO TXWY D, I PLACED MY FOCUS BACK ON TAXIING SINCE WE WERE NO LONGER TRAVELING STRAIGHT. AS THE STUDENT PULLED UP TO THE HOLD SHORT LINE IT SEEMED AS IF HE WAS NOT GOING TO STOP SO I HAD TAKEN THE CTLS AND STARTED TO HOLD SHORT. I THEN ASKED MY STUDENT IF WE HAD BEEN CLRED ACROSS RWY 14. HE SAID, 'YES WE ARE CLRED.' AS I RELEASED THE BRAKE AND RETURNED THE CTLS TO THE STUDENT I ASKED, 'ARE YOU SURE?' BECAUSE I SAW A KING AIR TAXIING INTO POS TO HOLD. VERY ADAMANTLY THE STUDENT RESPONDED, 'YES, YES I AM SURE.' I ASSUMED THAT DURING GND'S INSTRUCTIONS TO THE OTHER ACFT THAT I HAD SIMPLY MISSED OUR XING CLRNC. AFTER XING RWY 14, GND CONTACTED US ON THE OTHER SIDE TO INFORM US THAT WE JUST CROSSED IN FRONT OF DEPARTING TFC. AT THIS POINT THERE WAS NOTHING I COULD DO BUT APOLOGIZE AND ASK FOR A PHONE NUMBER TO CONTACT THEM. I DON'T' THINK ANY REGULATORY ACTION IS NEEDED. I THINK BOTH THE STUDENT AND I WERE DISTR WITH A POOR PERFORMANCE THAT RESULTED IN OUR ATTN BEING DIVERTED ELSEWHERE. IN ADDITION, I, AS THE INSTRUCTOR, SHOULD HAVE VERIFIED THE CLRNC WITH GND IF THERE WAS ANY DOUBT, ESPECIALLY AFTER SUCH A POOR STUDENT PERFORMANCE. I WILL REVIEW THE RWY INCURSION INFO I RECEIVED IN THE MAIL FROM THE FAA TO REFRESH MY MEMORY. I WILL ALSO CHANGE MY BEHAVIOR TO AVOID DISTRS WHILE OBSERVING A STUDENT DURING TAXI AND BE CONCERNED WITH THE POSTFLT BRIEFING AFTER WE ARE BACK IN THE CLASSROOM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.