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Attributes | |
ACN | 592489 |
Time | |
Date | 200308 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zkc.artcc |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | msl single value : 33000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-10 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc.artcc |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 122 flight time total : 20400 flight time type : 675 |
ASRS Report | 592489 |
Person 2 | |
Function | oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar/mode c aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 24000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
From our viewpoint, the flight proceeded uneventfully from takeoff to landing. We were checking in with each ATC facility and switching frequencys normally. The first officer and so were on headset, and the captain had the overhead speaker turned up. (The captain's communication system had been previously written up for problems transmitting.) we never received any word from any ATC facility that something was abnormal. However, the next morning our company advised us that ZKC lost separation between us and another flight. It seems the controller failed to provide sufficient heading changes to the other aircraft, with whom he was in contact. Although ZKC claims they tried to contact us several times as the conflict developed, none of us heard the calls. We have subsequently been advised by our company that this particular quadrant and frequency in ZKC has repeatedly lost contact with aircraft on other occasions, suggesting a radio 'dead zone' may exist in the area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DC10 CREW AT CRUISE ALT WAS ADVISED BY A ZKC RADAR CTLR THAT HE HAD CALLED SEVERAL TIMES BUT WAS UNABLE TO MAKE CONTACT.
Narrative: FROM OUR VIEWPOINT, THE FLT PROCEEDED UNEVENTFULLY FROM TKOF TO LNDG. WE WERE CHKING IN WITH EACH ATC FACILITY AND SWITCHING FREQS NORMALLY. THE FO AND SO WERE ON HEADSET, AND THE CAPT HAD THE OVERHEAD SPEAKER TURNED UP. (THE CAPT'S COM SYS HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY WRITTEN UP FOR PROBS XMITTING.) WE NEVER RECEIVED ANY WORD FROM ANY ATC FACILITY THAT SOMETHING WAS ABNORMAL. HOWEVER, THE NEXT MORNING OUR COMPANY ADVISED US THAT ZKC LOST SEPARATION BTWN US AND ANOTHER FLT. IT SEEMS THE CTLR FAILED TO PROVIDE SUFFICIENT HDG CHANGES TO THE OTHER ACFT, WITH WHOM HE WAS IN CONTACT. ALTHOUGH ZKC CLAIMS THEY TRIED TO CONTACT US SEVERAL TIMES AS THE CONFLICT DEVELOPED, NONE OF US HEARD THE CALLS. WE HAVE SUBSEQUENTLY BEEN ADVISED BY OUR COMPANY THAT THIS PARTICULAR QUADRANT AND FREQ IN ZKC HAS REPEATEDLY LOST CONTACT WITH ACFT ON OTHER OCCASIONS, SUGGESTING A RADIO 'DEAD ZONE' MAY EXIST IN THE AREA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.