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Attributes | |
ACN | 594604 |
Time | |
Date | 200309 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : bonvl |
State Reference | OR |
Altitude | msl single value : 14000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zse.artcc tracon : p80.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : bonvl |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 594604 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
ZSE gave us clearance for the BONVL4 arrival to pdx and to cross bonvl at 10000 ft and 250 KTS. We were not given the altitude or airspeed restr until approximately 20-22 mi from the bonvl fix. Aircraft was descending from FL220 at 320 KTS. We advised ATC we would not be able to make the restrs due to the late clearance. ATC requested altitude restr at bonvl and deleted airspeed restr. At 15000 ft, we advised ATC we would not be able to make the altitude restr, and would they like for us to turn off course or could they give us relief on the altitude restr. Seattle's response was to contact pdx approach. Aircraft crossed bonvl at approximately 14000 ft and 320 KTS.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MD80S FO RPTED MISSING AN ALT XING RESTR IN ZSE'S AIRSPACE.
Narrative: ZSE GAVE US CLRNC FOR THE BONVL4 ARR TO PDX AND TO CROSS BONVL AT 10000 FT AND 250 KTS. WE WERE NOT GIVEN THE ALT OR AIRSPD RESTR UNTIL APPROX 20-22 MI FROM THE BONVL FIX. ACFT WAS DSNDING FROM FL220 AT 320 KTS. WE ADVISED ATC WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE THE RESTRS DUE TO THE LATE CLRNC. ATC REQUESTED ALT RESTR AT BONVL AND DELETED AIRSPD RESTR. AT 15000 FT, WE ADVISED ATC WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE THE ALT RESTR, AND WOULD THEY LIKE FOR US TO TURN OFF COURSE OR COULD THEY GIVE US RELIEF ON THE ALT RESTR. SEATTLE'S RESPONSE WAS TO CONTACT PDX APCH. ACFT CROSSED BONVL AT APPROX 14000 FT AND 320 KTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.