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Attributes | |
ACN | 594825 |
Time | |
Date | 200309 |
Day | Fri |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mdst.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl single value : 1200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 594825 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 5 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Taking off on runway 11 at sti, at around 1200 ft MSL, while on an IFR flight plan, with a local altimeter setting of 29.94, and a heading of 113 degrees magnetic for our aircraft and approximately a 260 degree heading for the other aircraft. We were climbing out and the other aircraft was descending for landing, when we got an aural and visual 'traffic, traffic' alert from TCASII. We were in broken clouds, and did not see the other aircraft immediately, but I changed the scale on my display, and saw the traffic displayed at around our 12 O'clock position, and around 2 NM ahead of us, with relative motion of the traffic coming our way. The closest point of approach, as best I could determine from the TCASII display, was about 0.5 NM laterally and about 200 ft below us. The initial TCASII display showed the other aircraft about 100 ft above us, and it finished about 200 ft below us. We never received an RA, I suppose either because we were below 1000 ft AGL, or because our planes were climbing/descending. No evasive action was taken by us, and no injuries were sustained. I don't believe the other aircraft even saw us. We obtained visual contact with the other aircraft (after the event) at about 3:30-4 O'clock low position, about 1.5 NM away. Call sign and type of the other aircraft (as reported by santo domingo approach control and santiago tower) and type was an L410 (I don't know if that is correct, it looked a lot like an MU2). ATC said to us that 'the other pilot made a mistake -- he didn't report his position properly to us.' apparently not! ATC did not say if they were taking any action, so I am filing this report in the interests of furthering safety.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737 FLT CREW HAS IMPROPER TFC SEPARATION AFTER RECEIVING A TCASII TA WHILE DEPARTING STI.
Narrative: TAKING OFF ON RWY 11 AT STI, AT AROUND 1200 FT MSL, WHILE ON AN IFR FLT PLAN, WITH A LCL ALTIMETER SETTING OF 29.94, AND A HEADING OF 113 DEGS MAGNETIC FOR OUR ACFT AND APPROX A 260 DEG HDG FOR THE OTHER ACFT. WE WERE CLBING OUT AND THE OTHER ACFT WAS DSNDING FOR LNDG, WHEN WE GOT AN AURAL AND VISUAL 'TFC, TFC' ALERT FROM TCASII. WE WERE IN BROKEN CLOUDS, AND DID NOT SEE THE OTHER ACFT IMMEDIATELY, BUT I CHANGED THE SCALE ON MY DISPLAY, AND SAW THE TFC DISPLAYED AT AROUND OUR 12 O'CLOCK POS, AND AROUND 2 NM AHEAD OF US, WITH RELATIVE MOTION OF THE TFC COMING OUR WAY. THE CLOSEST POINT OF APCH, AS BEST I COULD DETERMINE FROM THE TCASII DISPLAY, WAS ABOUT 0.5 NM LATERALLY AND ABOUT 200 FT BELOW US. THE INITIAL TCASII DISPLAY SHOWED THE OTHER ACFT ABOUT 100 FT ABOVE US, AND IT FINISHED ABOUT 200 FT BELOW US. WE NEVER RECEIVED AN RA, I SUPPOSE EITHER BECAUSE WE WERE BELOW 1000 FT AGL, OR BECAUSE OUR PLANES WERE CLBING/DSNDING. NO EVASIVE ACTION WAS TAKEN BY US, AND NO INJURIES WERE SUSTAINED. I DON'T BELIEVE THE OTHER ACFT EVEN SAW US. WE OBTAINED VISUAL CONTACT WITH THE OTHER ACFT (AFTER THE EVENT) AT ABOUT 3:30-4 O'CLOCK LOW POS, ABOUT 1.5 NM AWAY. CALL SIGN AND TYPE OF THE OTHER ACFT (AS RPTED BY SANTO DOMINGO APCH CTL AND SANTIAGO TWR) AND TYPE WAS AN L410 (I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS CORRECT, IT LOOKED A LOT LIKE AN MU2). ATC SAID TO US THAT 'THE OTHER PLT MADE A MISTAKE -- HE DIDN'T RPT HIS POS PROPERLY TO US.' APPARENTLY NOT! ATC DID NOT SAY IF THEY WERE TAKING ANY ACTION, SO I AM FILING THIS RPT IN THE INTERESTS OF FURTHERING SAFETY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.