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A PA32 pilot on a flight from hgr to W05 after landing W05 is advised by ZDC ARTCC that he would be charged with a deviation for violating P-40 airspace.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 596403 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200310 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | special use airspace : p-40.prohibited |
| State Reference | MD |
| Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : hgr.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-32 Cherokee Six/Lance/Saratoga |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | departure : on vectors enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 150 |
| ASRS Report | 596403 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | other personnel |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar plotting aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : gps navigation other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On oct/fri/03, I flew piper cherokee 6 from green cove springs, fl (7fl4) to gettysburg, PA (W05) with intermediate stop at darlington, sc, (udg) and hagerstown, md (hgr). The first leg of the trip was an IFR flight from 7fl4 to udg. The second leg of the trip was an IFR flight from udg to hgr. The third leg of the trip was a VFR flight from hgr to W05. On both IFR flts I requested a standard briefing. In darlington, I inquired specifically about P40. In hagerstown, I refueled at FBO and asked the FBO how best to avoid P40 on my flight to gettysburg. The FBO said to fly north until I-85 and stay north of the interstate. On departure, hagerstown tower asked direction of flight and I replied, '078 degree radial to gettysburg.' tower replied, 'that won't work. Fly 045 degree radial.' after takeoff, I followed departure instructions and turned 045 degrees until north of I-85 and then proceeded to gettysburg. My navigation equipment includes both portable and approach certified GPS and both identify the P40 airspace. I had updated both databases prior to flight and both were current. Neither GPS indicated I had encroached on P40. On landing at gettysburg, the FBO attendant told me that ZDC had called and requested me to call them. I called ZDC and relayed the same information I have just given. ZDC called later and said I would be charged with a deviation. I thought I had avoided P40.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PA32 PLT ON A FLT FROM HGR TO W05 AFTER LNDG W05 IS ADVISED BY ZDC ARTCC THAT HE WOULD BE CHARGED WITH A DEV FOR VIOLATING P-40 AIRSPACE.
Narrative: ON OCT/FRI/03, I FLEW PIPER CHEROKEE 6 FROM GREEN COVE SPRINGS, FL (7FL4) TO GETTYSBURG, PA (W05) WITH INTERMEDIATE STOP AT DARLINGTON, SC, (UDG) AND HAGERSTOWN, MD (HGR). THE FIRST LEG OF THE TRIP WAS AN IFR FLT FROM 7FL4 TO UDG. THE SECOND LEG OF THE TRIP WAS AN IFR FLT FROM UDG TO HGR. THE THIRD LEG OF THE TRIP WAS A VFR FLT FROM HGR TO W05. ON BOTH IFR FLTS I REQUESTED A STANDARD BRIEFING. IN DARLINGTON, I INQUIRED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT P40. IN HAGERSTOWN, I REFUELED AT FBO AND ASKED THE FBO HOW BEST TO AVOID P40 ON MY FLT TO GETTYSBURG. THE FBO SAID TO FLY N UNTIL I-85 AND STAY N OF THE INTERSTATE. ON DEP, HAGERSTOWN TWR ASKED DIRECTION OF FLT AND I REPLIED, '078 DEG RADIAL TO GETTYSBURG.' TWR REPLIED, 'THAT WON'T WORK. FLY 045 DEG RADIAL.' AFTER TKOF, I FOLLOWED DEP INSTRUCTIONS AND TURNED 045 DEGS UNTIL N OF I-85 AND THEN PROCEEDED TO GETTYSBURG. MY NAV EQUIP INCLUDES BOTH PORTABLE AND APCH CERTIFIED GPS AND BOTH IDENT THE P40 AIRSPACE. I HAD UPDATED BOTH DATABASES PRIOR TO FLT AND BOTH WERE CURRENT. NEITHER GPS INDICATED I HAD ENCROACHED ON P40. ON LNDG AT GETTYSBURG, THE FBO ATTENDANT TOLD ME THAT ZDC HAD CALLED AND REQUESTED ME TO CALL THEM. I CALLED ZDC AND RELAYED THE SAME INFO I HAVE JUST GIVEN. ZDC CALLED LATER AND SAID I WOULD BE CHARGED WITH A DEV. I THOUGHT I HAD AVOIDED P40.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.