37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 598866 |
Time | |
Date | 200311 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude descent : approach landing : roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 15290 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 598866 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical incursion : runway incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : diverted to another airport flight crew : landed in emergency condition other |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
About 5 mins after takeoff a message alerted the crew of an abnormal thrust reverse situation. Reference was made to the aircraft flight manual and the decision was made to return to the point of departure. During the short course reversal back to the airport (approximately 8 mins) the sic as we say 'got behind the aircraft.' this was compounded by the fact that the landing brief for a non standard landing (no thrust reversers) caused a distraction of the crew to overlook the fact that approach control never gave us a handoff to local tower control. I feel this was a direct result of the degradation of the crew's situational awareness. On approximately a mi final I noticed 2 aircraft on a departing roll and asked the sic to verify our landing clearance. The response from ATC was, 'nxxxx, contact the tower.' by the time we contacted the tower the mains were contacting the runway. I believe at that point I should have abandoned the approach with a go around, but denial of the current event dictated otherwise.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG BUSINESS JET CREW RETURNED TO THEIR DEP WITH AN EICAS WARNING OF AN ABNORMAL THRUST REVERSER. THE CREW DID NOT DECLARE AN EMER, AND LANDED WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: ABOUT 5 MINS AFTER TKOF A MESSAGE ALERTED THE CREW OF AN ABNORMAL THRUST REVERSE SIT. REF WAS MADE TO THE ACFT FLT MANUAL AND THE DECISION WAS MADE TO RETURN TO THE POINT OF DEP. DURING THE SHORT COURSE REVERSAL BACK TO THE ARPT (APPROX 8 MINS) THE SIC AS WE SAY 'GOT BEHIND THE ACFT.' THIS WAS COMPOUNDED BY THE FACT THAT THE LNDG BRIEF FOR A NON STANDARD LNDG (NO THRUST REVERSERS) CAUSED A DISTR OF THE CREW TO OVERLOOK THE FACT THAT APCH CTL NEVER GAVE US A HDOF TO LCL TWR CTL. I FEEL THIS WAS A DIRECT RESULT OF THE DEGRADATION OF THE CREW'S SITUATIONAL AWARENESS. ON APPROX A MI FINAL I NOTICED 2 ACFT ON A DEPARTING ROLL AND ASKED THE SIC TO VERIFY OUR LNDG CLRNC. THE RESPONSE FROM ATC WAS, 'NXXXX, CONTACT THE TWR.' BY THE TIME WE CONTACTED THE TWR THE MAINS WERE CONTACTING THE RWY. I BELIEVE AT THAT POINT I SHOULD HAVE ABANDONED THE APCH WITH A GAR, BUT DENIAL OF THE CURRENT EVENT DICTATED OTHERWISE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.