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Attributes | |
ACN | 599387 |
Time | |
Date | 200311 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : boi.airport |
State Reference | ID |
Altitude | agl single value : 500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : boi.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : missed approach |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern arrival : vfr |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : boi.tower |
Make Model Name | King Air 100 A/B |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 599387 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor observation : company check pilot |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 700 vertical : 10 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was receiving a stage check at the flight school I am currently attending. The check was for cfii. I was in the aircraft in the right seat demonstrating instrument instructor capabilities. The school check personnel was manipulator of the controls during the entire flight. I had requested a practice approach to runway 28L with circle to land. Upon reaching decision ht the check instructor called missed approach and maneuvered the aircraft to the south of the runway environment and entered a right downwind for runway 10R as instructed by tower. The tower then asked if a short approach could be made. The check instructor replied, 'yes.' there was traffic in the pattern on both sides for both runways. The tower then cleared a dash 8 for landing on runway 10L. The tower then cleared a king air for runway 10R. The tower said we would be #2 behind the king air and that tower would call our base. I spotted the king air in a left base for runway 10R. I did not state contact to the tower or the check instructor. The check instructor told tower 'contact on the king air.' the tower told us cleared to land #2 behind the king air on runway 10R. The check instructor replied cleared to land #2 runway 10R. At this time I noted that the instructor was turning onto base leg, I had the dash 8 in sight for runway 10L and it appeared to me that the check instructor was confused about the aircraft to follow. I immediately stated that the aircraft he was turning to follow was not the king air. At that time the pilot of the king air asked the tower to confirm he was cleared to land, as there was a cessna in front of him. The tower requested us to make an immediate right turn. We reentered the pattern for a landing on runway 10R as instructed by the tower. I believe the check instructor did not know his aircraft very well. Also this confusion could have been compounded, as it is a little unusual to have left traffic for the right runway. I feel this could have been avoided by having the tower call our base leg behind the king air as originally stated. I also think that I should have pointed the traffic out to the check instructor and not assume that he and I had the same aircraft in sight. The check instructor is 70+ yrs of age. The instructor had recently surrendered his designators examiner's authority/authorized. The instructor did not seem to be too concerned about this.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 INSTRUCTOR PLT TURNED AHEAD OF THE ACFT HE WAS TOLD TO FOLLOW. THE INSTRUCTOR PLT HAD ANOTHER ACFT IN SIGHT.
Narrative: I WAS RECEIVING A STAGE CHK AT THE FLT SCHOOL I AM CURRENTLY ATTENDING. THE CHK WAS FOR CFII. I WAS IN THE ACFT IN THE R SEAT DEMONSTRATING INST INSTRUCTOR CAPABILITIES. THE SCHOOL CHK PERSONNEL WAS MANIPULATOR OF THE CTLS DURING THE ENTIRE FLT. I HAD REQUESTED A PRACTICE APCH TO RWY 28L WITH CIRCLE TO LAND. UPON REACHING DECISION HT THE CHK INSTRUCTOR CALLED MISSED APCH AND MANEUVERED THE ACFT TO THE S OF THE RWY ENVIRONMENT AND ENTERED A R DOWNWIND FOR RWY 10R AS INSTRUCTED BY TWR. THE TWR THEN ASKED IF A SHORT APCH COULD BE MADE. THE CHK INSTRUCTOR REPLIED, 'YES.' THERE WAS TFC IN THE PATTERN ON BOTH SIDES FOR BOTH RWYS. THE TWR THEN CLRED A DASH 8 FOR LNDG ON RWY 10L. THE TWR THEN CLRED A KING AIR FOR RWY 10R. THE TWR SAID WE WOULD BE #2 BEHIND THE KING AIR AND THAT TWR WOULD CALL OUR BASE. I SPOTTED THE KING AIR IN A L BASE FOR RWY 10R. I DID NOT STATE CONTACT TO THE TWR OR THE CHK INSTRUCTOR. THE CHK INSTRUCTOR TOLD TWR 'CONTACT ON THE KING AIR.' THE TWR TOLD US CLRED TO LAND #2 BEHIND THE KING AIR ON RWY 10R. THE CHK INSTRUCTOR REPLIED CLRED TO LAND #2 RWY 10R. AT THIS TIME I NOTED THAT THE INSTRUCTOR WAS TURNING ONTO BASE LEG, I HAD THE DASH 8 IN SIGHT FOR RWY 10L AND IT APPEARED TO ME THAT THE CHK INSTRUCTOR WAS CONFUSED ABOUT THE ACFT TO FOLLOW. I IMMEDIATELY STATED THAT THE ACFT HE WAS TURNING TO FOLLOW WAS NOT THE KING AIR. AT THAT TIME THE PLT OF THE KING AIR ASKED THE TWR TO CONFIRM HE WAS CLRED TO LAND, AS THERE WAS A CESSNA IN FRONT OF HIM. THE TWR REQUESTED US TO MAKE AN IMMEDIATE R TURN. WE REENTERED THE PATTERN FOR A LNDG ON RWY 10R AS INSTRUCTED BY THE TWR. I BELIEVE THE CHK INSTRUCTOR DID NOT KNOW HIS ACFT VERY WELL. ALSO THIS CONFUSION COULD HAVE BEEN COMPOUNDED, AS IT IS A LITTLE UNUSUAL TO HAVE L TFC FOR THE R RWY. I FEEL THIS COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED BY HAVING THE TWR CALL OUR BASE LEG BEHIND THE KING AIR AS ORIGINALLY STATED. I ALSO THINK THAT I SHOULD HAVE POINTED THE TFC OUT TO THE CHK INSTRUCTOR AND NOT ASSUME THAT HE AND I HAD THE SAME ACFT IN SIGHT. THE CHK INSTRUCTOR IS 70+ YRS OF AGE. THE INSTRUCTOR HAD RECENTLY SURRENDERED HIS DESIGNATORS EXAMINER'S AUTH. THE INSTRUCTOR DID NOT SEEM TO BE TOO CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.