<< >> NASA ASRS Report 599629, November 2003

While shooting touch and goes, flight instructor and student in small aircraft on long base turn to final experience near midair collision with BE33 shooting practice ILS to runway 17 at hqz.

Attributes
ACN	599629
Time
Date	200311
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	navaid : pqf.ndb
State Reference	TX
Altitude	agl single value : 600
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Weather Elements	other
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	approach : traffic pattern
Flight Plan	None
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Bonanza 33
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	ils localizer & glide slope : 17
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	approach : instrument precision
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 524 flight time type : 30
ASRS Report	599629
Person 2
Affiliation	other
Function	instruction : trainee
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action
Miss Distance	horizontal : 200 vertical : 0
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Airport Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

While practicing touch and goes at hqz with a student, we had a 'close call with another aircraft. The #2 aircraft was practicing the ILS runway 17 into hqz, VFR conditions, and I did not hear any radio calls from him. When my student turned a 2.8 (by GPS) mi final, with 2 aircraft ahead of us, the aircraft on the ILS reported a '3 mi final on the ILS inbound for landing.' I saw the aircraft just off our right, converging from above us. I made an immediate left turn and requested that the other aircraft make an evasive maneuver to the right. He did so, completed a 360 degrees and returned for landing. I never heard him report his tail number again. This could have been avoided if the aircraft on the instrument approach had made more radio position reports and made an effort to fit into the pattern, which was already congested. All the other aircraft in the pattern were making appropriate radio calls and being 'safe.'

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: WHILE SHOOTING TOUCH AND GOES, FLT INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT IN SMA ON LONG BASE TURN TO FINAL EXPERIENCE NMAC WITH BE33 SHOOTING PRACTICE ILS TO RWY 17 AT HQZ.

Narrative: WHILE PRACTICING TOUCH AND GOES AT HQZ WITH A STUDENT, WE HAD A 'CLOSE CALL WITH ANOTHER ACFT. THE #2 ACFT WAS PRACTICING THE ILS RWY 17 INTO HQZ, VFR CONDITIONS, AND I DID NOT HEAR ANY RADIO CALLS FROM HIM. WHEN MY STUDENT TURNED A 2.8 (BY GPS) MI FINAL, WITH 2 ACFT AHEAD OF US, THE ACFT ON THE ILS RPTED A '3 MI FINAL ON THE ILS INBOUND FOR LNDG.' I SAW THE ACFT JUST OFF OUR R, CONVERGING FROM ABOVE US. I MADE AN IMMEDIATE L TURN AND REQUESTED THAT THE OTHER ACFT MAKE AN EVASIVE MANEUVER TO THE R. HE DID SO, COMPLETED A 360 DEGS AND RETURNED FOR LNDG. I NEVER HEARD HIM RPT HIS TAIL NUMBER AGAIN. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF THE ACFT ON THE INST APCH HAD MADE MORE RADIO POS RPTS AND MADE AN EFFORT TO FIT INTO THE PATTERN, WHICH WAS ALREADY CONGESTED. ALL THE OTHER ACFT IN THE PATTERN WERE MAKING APPROPRIATE RADIO CALLS AND BEING 'SAFE.'

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.