Atl local controller questions carj flight crew, after being cleared into takeoff position, as it appears that they were initiating takeoff roll as a B767 is on landing roll on runway 9R approaching the intersecting runway.

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Attributes
ACN	600463
Time
Date	200311
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : atl.airport
State Reference	GA
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Regional Jet 200 ER&LR
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : position and hold ground : holding
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tower : atl.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : taxi ground : holding
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 750
ASRS Report	600463
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Events
Anomaly	conflict : ground less severe non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued alert
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Company
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

Taxi out, ground asked us to contact tower. The first officer switched over and the tower asked if we were ready to go. We were giving the briefing at the time and thought he said we were cleared to go. We were #1 and didn't see another aircraft in the area. I went into position on the runway, which we were cleared to do. I called for the takeoff check, when I saw a B767 that just landed on runway 9R merging with our runway. I said 'I think he's going to cross our runway.' we had just released the brakes when the tower called. He asked if we were holding in position. I reset the brakes and answered yes. We had started to roll slightly, but it caused the spoilers to deploy. I was afraid that it looked like an aborted takeoff.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ATL LCL CTLR QUESTIONS CARJ FLT CREW, AFTER BEING CLRED INTO TKOF POS, AS IT APPEARS THAT THEY WERE INITIATING TKOF ROLL AS A B767 IS ON LNDG ROLL ON RWY 9R APCHING THE INTERSECTING RWY.

Narrative: TAXI OUT, GND ASKED US TO CONTACT TWR. THE FO SWITCHED OVER AND THE TWR ASKED IF WE WERE READY TO GO. WE WERE GIVING THE BRIEFING AT THE TIME AND THOUGHT HE SAID WE WERE CLRED TO GO. WE WERE #1 AND DIDN'T SEE ANOTHER ACFT IN THE AREA. I WENT INTO POS ON THE RWY, WHICH WE WERE CLRED TO DO. I CALLED FOR THE TKOF CHK, WHEN I SAW A B767 THAT JUST LANDED ON RWY 9R MERGING WITH OUR RWY. I SAID 'I THINK HE'S GOING TO CROSS OUR RWY.' WE HAD JUST RELEASED THE BRAKES WHEN THE TWR CALLED. HE ASKED IF WE WERE HOLDING IN POS. I RESET THE BRAKES AND ANSWERED YES. WE HAD STARTED TO ROLL SLIGHTLY, BUT IT CAUSED THE SPOILERS TO DEPLOY. I WAS AFRAID THAT IT LOOKED LIKE AN ABORTED TKOF.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.