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Attributes | |
ACN | 600594 |
Time | |
Date | 200311 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : pdx.vor |
State Reference | OR |
Altitude | msl single value : 33000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zse.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 7000 |
ASRS Report | 600594 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : cabin alt warning horn other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : provided flight assist flight crew : landed as precaution flight crew : diverted to another airport other |
Consequence | other other other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
We had been at cruise FL330 for about 10-15 mins and the cabin altitude warning horn sounded with no other cautions or abnormalities. We checked altitude and it showed 10000 ft and climbing about 500 FPM. We donned our oxygen masks and I told ATC we were having a cabin pressurization problem and descending. We were cleared to FL240 and we started down using rapid descent procedures. We established 2-WAY communication, although I was having a hard time haring the first officer. I then put the packs to high, but cabin continued to climb. I verified bleed switches were on and duct pressure was normal. I then looked at the outflow valve position indicator and it showed full closed. At this point, I elected not to select manual and manipulate the outflow valve switch. West received a clearance to 10000 ft and continued to descend maximum rate while cabin continued to climb 500 FPM. I called the flight attendants and informed them of the situation and to standby for further instructions. I finished the remainder of the QRH checklist for cabin altitude warning horn and coordinated a divert to pdx. I continued to monitor the cabin indications and noticed around FL180 the cabin started descending but the outflow was opening. At this point, I directed the first officer to select manual and close the outflow valve. When we did this, the cabin started climbing. I then directed the first officer to reselect automatic mode, and the cabin started descending. The cabin never exceeded 13000 ft and passenger oxygen system was not activated. With some semblance of control, we continued to 10000 ft and diverted to pdx. At this point the cabin indicator showed 10000 ft and differential pressure was zero. I reset the controller to the elevation of pdx and cabin started descending 500 FPM. We contacted pdx operations and had them call dispatch and landed pdx without further incident. I submit the following observations about our performance and human factors issues in hopes of some degree of learning: 1) I elected not to manipulate the outflow valve because the few times in the last few yrs I have had cause to do so, it always made the condition worse, ie, huge changes in cabin rates of climb or descent. The outflow valve indicated closed to use and it seemed redundant to 'close the outflow valve.' this is a complete lack of checklist discipline, but based on previous experiences, I didn't want to make it worse. At this point, I was probably thinking too much, which is hard to do with the masks on, coordinating a divert, trying to establish 2-WAY communication, and wondering 'what am I screwing up here?' less thinking and more checklist discipline might have been a better course of action. 2) I was amazed how long (10-15 seconds) it took us to fully realize what was happening. I always thought I would instantly recognize the 'takeoff warning horn' as a 'cabin altitude warning horn' once I was airborne. Not so. We are so 'pavlovian' in our response to that sound, especially now with our heightened awareness of the horn and rejected takeoff's. 3) crew communication wasn't fully established until I asked first officer if he was using bottom half of yoke push-to-talk. These 3 items are training issues. More pressurization problems in pt's with actually donning of masks, etc. 4) after I had been on the ground for a little while, my legs were a little shaky. I was very aware of this and asked first officer and flight attendants if they were ok. They said they were. But by the time we got another airplane, I was fine and ready to go again. However, I was very distraction on the next leg reliving the event, self-criticizing, rereading checklists, reading flight manual, etc. I thought I was ready -- maybe I wasn't. I was very concerned about the amount of criticism I would receive for lack of checklist discipline. 5) scheduling rerouted me that night, landing at XA20. I had an XI00 the next morning report in order deadheading 2 legs back on my trip and a nearly 13 hour duty day. When I got to the airport the next morning, I was not physically ready to fly and called in fatigued.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-300 CREW INITIALLY MISINTERPRETED THE ALT WARNING HORN AS HAVING AN ACFT CONFIGURATION PROB AND DELAYED RECOGNITION OF AN ACFT DEPRESSURIZATION PROB.
Narrative: WE HAD BEEN AT CRUISE FL330 FOR ABOUT 10-15 MINS AND THE CABIN ALT WARNING HORN SOUNDED WITH NO OTHER CAUTIONS OR ABNORMALITIES. WE CHKED ALT AND IT SHOWED 10000 FT AND CLBING ABOUT 500 FPM. WE DONNED OUR OXYGEN MASKS AND I TOLD ATC WE WERE HAVING A CABIN PRESSURIZATION PROB AND DSNDING. WE WERE CLRED TO FL240 AND WE STARTED DOWN USING RAPID DSCNT PROCS. WE ESTABLISHED 2-WAY COM, ALTHOUGH I WAS HAVING A HARD TIME HARING THE FO. I THEN PUT THE PACKS TO HIGH, BUT CABIN CONTINUED TO CLB. I VERIFIED BLEED SWITCHES WERE ON AND DUCT PRESSURE WAS NORMAL. I THEN LOOKED AT THE OUTFLOW VALVE POS INDICATOR AND IT SHOWED FULL CLOSED. AT THIS POINT, I ELECTED NOT TO SELECT MANUAL AND MANIPULATE THE OUTFLOW VALVE SWITCH. W RECEIVED A CLRNC TO 10000 FT AND CONTINUED TO DSND MAX RATE WHILE CABIN CONTINUED TO CLB 500 FPM. I CALLED THE FLT ATTENDANTS AND INFORMED THEM OF THE SIT AND TO STANDBY FOR FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS. I FINISHED THE REMAINDER OF THE QRH CHKLIST FOR CABIN ALT WARNING HORN AND COORDINATED A DIVERT TO PDX. I CONTINUED TO MONITOR THE CABIN INDICATIONS AND NOTICED AROUND FL180 THE CABIN STARTED DSNDING BUT THE OUTFLOW WAS OPENING. AT THIS POINT, I DIRECTED THE FO TO SELECT MANUAL AND CLOSE THE OUTFLOW VALVE. WHEN WE DID THIS, THE CABIN STARTED CLBING. I THEN DIRECTED THE FO TO RESELECT AUTO MODE, AND THE CABIN STARTED DSNDING. THE CABIN NEVER EXCEEDED 13000 FT AND PAX OXYGEN SYS WAS NOT ACTIVATED. WITH SOME SEMBLANCE OF CTL, WE CONTINUED TO 10000 FT AND DIVERTED TO PDX. AT THIS POINT THE CABIN INDICATOR SHOWED 10000 FT AND DIFFERENTIAL PRESSURE WAS ZERO. I RESET THE CONTROLLER TO THE ELEVATION OF PDX AND CABIN STARTED DSNDING 500 FPM. WE CONTACTED PDX OPS AND HAD THEM CALL DISPATCH AND LANDED PDX WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. I SUBMIT THE FOLLOWING OBSERVATIONS ABOUT OUR PERFORMANCE AND HUMAN FACTORS ISSUES IN HOPES OF SOME DEGREE OF LEARNING: 1) I ELECTED NOT TO MANIPULATE THE OUTFLOW VALVE BECAUSE THE FEW TIMES IN THE LAST FEW YRS I HAVE HAD CAUSE TO DO SO, IT ALWAYS MADE THE CONDITION WORSE, IE, HUGE CHANGES IN CABIN RATES OF CLB OR DSCNT. THE OUTFLOW VALVE INDICATED CLOSED TO USE AND IT SEEMED REDUNDANT TO 'CLOSE THE OUTFLOW VALVE.' THIS IS A COMPLETE LACK OF CHKLIST DISCIPLINE, BUT BASED ON PREVIOUS EXPERIENCES, I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE IT WORSE. AT THIS POINT, I WAS PROBABLY THINKING TOO MUCH, WHICH IS HARD TO DO WITH THE MASKS ON, COORDINATING A DIVERT, TRYING TO ESTABLISH 2-WAY COM, AND WONDERING 'WHAT AM I SCREWING UP HERE?' LESS THINKING AND MORE CHKLIST DISCIPLINE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A BETTER COURSE OF ACTION. 2) I WAS AMAZED HOW LONG (10-15 SECONDS) IT TOOK US TO FULLY REALIZE WHAT WAS HAPPENING. I ALWAYS THOUGHT I WOULD INSTANTLY RECOGNIZE THE 'TKOF WARNING HORN' AS A 'CABIN ALT WARNING HORN' ONCE I WAS AIRBORNE. NOT SO. WE ARE SO 'PAVLOVIAN' IN OUR RESPONSE TO THAT SOUND, ESPECIALLY NOW WITH OUR HEIGHTENED AWARENESS OF THE HORN AND RTO'S. 3) CREW COM WASN'T FULLY ESTABLISHED UNTIL I ASKED FO IF HE WAS USING BOTTOM HALF OF YOKE PUSH-TO-TALK. THESE 3 ITEMS ARE TRAINING ISSUES. MORE PRESSURIZATION PROBS IN PT'S WITH ACTUALLY DONNING OF MASKS, ETC. 4) AFTER I HAD BEEN ON THE GND FOR A LITTLE WHILE, MY LEGS WERE A LITTLE SHAKY. I WAS VERY AWARE OF THIS AND ASKED FO AND FLT ATTENDANTS IF THEY WERE OK. THEY SAID THEY WERE. BUT BY THE TIME WE GOT ANOTHER AIRPLANE, I WAS FINE AND READY TO GO AGAIN. HOWEVER, I WAS VERY DISTR ON THE NEXT LEG RELIVING THE EVENT, SELF-CRITICIZING, REREADING CHKLISTS, READING FLT MANUAL, ETC. I THOUGHT I WAS READY -- MAYBE I WASN'T. I WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF CRITICISM I WOULD RECEIVE FOR LACK OF CHKLIST DISCIPLINE. 5) SCHEDULING REROUTED ME THAT NIGHT, LNDG AT XA20. I HAD AN XI00 THE NEXT MORNING RPT IN ORDER DEADHEADING 2 LEGS BACK ON MY TRIP AND A NEARLY 13 HR DUTY DAY. WHEN I GOT TO THE ARPT THE NEXT MORNING, I WAS NOT PHYSICALLY READY TO FLY AND CALLED IN FATIGUED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.