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Attributes | |
ACN | 601301 |
Time | |
Date | 200312 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 4800 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 601301 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe ground encounters other non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airport |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
We were operating a flight to dfw. Upon reception of ATIS, we realized that landing would be to the north on west side of airport, most likely runway 36L. As we briefed our runway exit plan, we noticed that the best option would be high speed taxiway E2 but, taxiway E3, which was on opposite parallel, was noted as a construction area. Taxiway E2 was not advised as closed, in ATIS, or in our paperwork. Taxiway E3 was noted as a construction area on our commercial chart plate. Since there was a possibility of construction and the next high speed was farther down, we decided we would exit at taxiway 2K, which was a 90 degree turnoff between taxiway E2 and taxiway E1 (the next high speed). As we landed and rolled out, our speed was such as to exit at intersection week. We hadn't reached taxiway E2 high speed yet, when tower stated, 'exit the forward high speed taxiway east to taxiway Y and short of runway 36R.' I cannot imagine flying into an international airport for the first time, rolling out and hearing tower give a mouthful clearance such as this to an unfamiliar crew! Regardless, I stated we would exit at week, to which tower 'snapped' back, 'negative, comply with the clearance.' I do remember a stern vocal 'negative,' followed by what I believe is the above statement. Since the tone of message was so stern, and not yet having reached taxiway E2, I stopped the aircraft and exited at taxiway E2. There were some barricades on the south side of the taxiway, but were of no problem. As we exited the taxiway, he said he meant taxiway E1 and to be cautious of equipment nearby. At no point was the aircraft in conflict with any of the equipment either. This situation was picture perfect for mistiming of communication and miscom as well. I could have said negative, and continued to taxiway ek, but his quick 'negative' led me to believe there could arise a conflict if I took that taxiway. I wish towers would not give exit clrncs when aircraft are still rolling out and at higher than taxi speed. The least he could have done is utilize the name of the taxiway rather than 'forward' high speed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DFW LCL CTLR INSTRUCTED A TXWY E2 EXIT DURING LNDG ROLL OF A CARJ-200, THEN HAS TO ADVISE CAUTION TO AVOID BARRICADE EQUIP ENCOUNTER BECAUSE OF TXWY CONSTRUCTION CLOSURE.
Narrative: WE WERE OPERATING A FLT TO DFW. UPON RECEPTION OF ATIS, WE REALIZED THAT LNDG WOULD BE TO THE N ON W SIDE OF ARPT, MOST LIKELY RWY 36L. AS WE BRIEFED OUR RWY EXIT PLAN, WE NOTICED THAT THE BEST OPTION WOULD BE HIGH SPD TXWY E2 BUT, TXWY E3, WHICH WAS ON OPPOSITE PARALLEL, WAS NOTED AS A CONSTRUCTION AREA. TXWY E2 WAS NOT ADVISED AS CLOSED, IN ATIS, OR IN OUR PAPERWORK. TXWY E3 WAS NOTED AS A CONSTRUCTION AREA ON OUR COMMERCIAL CHART PLATE. SINCE THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY OF CONSTRUCTION AND THE NEXT HIGH SPD WAS FARTHER DOWN, WE DECIDED WE WOULD EXIT AT TXWY 2K, WHICH WAS A 90 DEG TURNOFF BTWN TXWY E2 AND TXWY E1 (THE NEXT HIGH SPD). AS WE LANDED AND ROLLED OUT, OUR SPD WAS SUCH AS TO EXIT AT INTXN WK. WE HADN'T REACHED TXWY E2 HIGH SPD YET, WHEN TWR STATED, 'EXIT THE FORWARD HIGH SPD TXWY E TO TXWY Y AND SHORT OF RWY 36R.' I CANNOT IMAGINE FLYING INTO AN INTL ARPT FOR THE FIRST TIME, ROLLING OUT AND HEARING TWR GIVE A MOUTHFUL CLRNC SUCH AS THIS TO AN UNFAMILIAR CREW! REGARDLESS, I STATED WE WOULD EXIT AT WK, TO WHICH TWR 'SNAPPED' BACK, 'NEGATIVE, COMPLY WITH THE CLRNC.' I DO REMEMBER A STERN VOCAL 'NEGATIVE,' FOLLOWED BY WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE ABOVE STATEMENT. SINCE THE TONE OF MESSAGE WAS SO STERN, AND NOT YET HAVING REACHED TXWY E2, I STOPPED THE ACFT AND EXITED AT TXWY E2. THERE WERE SOME BARRICADES ON THE S SIDE OF THE TXWY, BUT WERE OF NO PROB. AS WE EXITED THE TXWY, HE SAID HE MEANT TXWY E1 AND TO BE CAUTIOUS OF EQUIP NEARBY. AT NO POINT WAS THE ACFT IN CONFLICT WITH ANY OF THE EQUIP EITHER. THIS SIT WAS PICTURE PERFECT FOR MISTIMING OF COM AND MISCOM AS WELL. I COULD HAVE SAID NEGATIVE, AND CONTINUED TO TXWY EK, BUT HIS QUICK 'NEGATIVE' LED ME TO BELIEVE THERE COULD ARISE A CONFLICT IF I TOOK THAT TXWY. I WISH TWRS WOULD NOT GIVE EXIT CLRNCS WHEN ACFT ARE STILL ROLLING OUT AND AT HIGHER THAN TAXI SPD. THE LEAST HE COULD HAVE DONE IS UTILIZE THE NAME OF THE TXWY RATHER THAN 'FORWARD' HIGH SPD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.