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Attributes | |
ACN | 604801 |
Time | |
Date | 200401 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : stl.airport |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Shorts SD-360 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : holding ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3900 flight time type : 2400 |
ASRS Report | 604801 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
At stl one controller was controling ground, tower and departure. We were given taxi instruction and while we were close to the runway, were given takeoff clearance. We announced 'rolling' for takeoff. The controller said nothing. After takeoff the controller gave us a number to call. We called and he said he did not give us takeoff clearance, which he did. I believe that one controller should not be controling ground, tower and departure, and they should be rotated regularly to keep them fresh and alert.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SH360 DEPARTS STL WITHOUT TKOF CLRNC ACCORDING TO ATC.
Narrative: AT STL ONE CTLR WAS CTLING GND, TWR AND DEP. WE WERE GIVEN TAXI INSTRUCTION AND WHILE WE WERE CLOSE TO THE RWY, WERE GIVEN TKOF CLRNC. WE ANNOUNCED 'ROLLING' FOR TKOF. THE CTLR SAID NOTHING. AFTER TKOF THE CTLR GAVE US A NUMBER TO CALL. WE CALLED AND HE SAID HE DID NOT GIVE US TKOF CLRNC, WHICH HE DID. I BELIEVE THAT ONE CTLR SHOULD NOT BE CTLING GND, TWR AND DEP, AND THEY SHOULD BE ROTATED REGULARLY TO KEEP THEM FRESH AND ALERT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.