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Attributes | |
ACN | 610628 |
Time | |
Date | 200403 |
Day | Sat |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pct.tracon |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 9400 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Embraer Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 610678 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 610629 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter : turbulence non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : exited adverse environment flight crew : returned to assigned altitude flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Environmental Factor Weather Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Took off runway 28 at bwi. ATC gave us a heading toward some WX and cleared us to 9000 ft. We made the turn and told them we couldn't stay on the heading very long. Shortly later, I told ATC we needed to turn left to avoid the WX. They responded 'not just yet.' we waited a little longer and told ATC we had to turn left to avoid WX. He was very busy and didn't respond. We got to the point where we had to turn or we would fly into the WX, so we turned left and advised ATC of the turn. They said, 'roger, let me know when you can turn right on course.' we were experiencing continuous moderate turbulence from shortly after takeoff. When we got to a heading away from the WX, I noticed that we were climbing through 9400 ft. I advised the PF (first officer) of his altitude and he expeditiously returned to 9000 ft. ATC then gave us a climb clearance to a higher altitude. ATC never did question the altitude deviation. Supplemental information from acn 610629: departed bwi after 2 ground stops. We started to encounter moderate to severe turbulence. We told them we needed to turn. They still said we could not turn. We were heading right for the storm. Finally we agreed to turn to get away from the storm. In the midst of fighting with ATC and the moderate to severe turbulence of the storm, I missed my altitude of 9000 ft by 500 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DEPARTING BWI, A REGIONAL JET FLT CREW CHALLENGE PCT DEP CTLR TO TURN DUE TO WX, TAKING PRECAUTIONARY WX AVOIDANCE ACTION, INADVERTENTLY CLBING ABOVE ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: TOOK OFF RWY 28 AT BWI. ATC GAVE US A HDG TOWARD SOME WX AND CLRED US TO 9000 FT. WE MADE THE TURN AND TOLD THEM WE COULDN'T STAY ON THE HDG VERY LONG. SHORTLY LATER, I TOLD ATC WE NEEDED TO TURN L TO AVOID THE WX. THEY RESPONDED 'NOT JUST YET.' WE WAITED A LITTLE LONGER AND TOLD ATC WE HAD TO TURN L TO AVOID WX. HE WAS VERY BUSY AND DIDN'T RESPOND. WE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAD TO TURN OR WE WOULD FLY INTO THE WX, SO WE TURNED L AND ADVISED ATC OF THE TURN. THEY SAID, 'ROGER, LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU CAN TURN R ON COURSE.' WE WERE EXPERIENCING CONTINUOUS MODERATE TURB FROM SHORTLY AFTER TKOF. WHEN WE GOT TO A HDG AWAY FROM THE WX, I NOTICED THAT WE WERE CLBING THROUGH 9400 FT. I ADVISED THE PF (FO) OF HIS ALT AND HE EXPEDITIOUSLY RETURNED TO 9000 FT. ATC THEN GAVE US A CLB CLRNC TO A HIGHER ALT. ATC NEVER DID QUESTION THE ALTDEV. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 610629: DEPARTED BWI AFTER 2 GND STOPS. WE STARTED TO ENCOUNTER MODERATE TO SEVERE TURB. WE TOLD THEM WE NEEDED TO TURN. THEY STILL SAID WE COULD NOT TURN. WE WERE HEADING RIGHT FOR THE STORM. FINALLY WE AGREED TO TURN TO GET AWAY FROM THE STORM. IN THE MIDST OF FIGHTING WITH ATC AND THE MODERATE TO SEVERE TURB OF THE STORM, I MISSED MY ALT OF 9000 FT BY 500 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.