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Confusion reigned in this B757 cockpit when the expected clearance was not given due to inbound traffic. A TCASII TA resulted and the flight crew was unclr as to what was expected of them.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 613206 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200403 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ege.airport |
| State Reference | CO |
| Altitude | msl single value : 10000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : initial |
| Route In Use | departure sid : n/a |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv.artcc |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 4500 flight time total : 25000 flight time type : 188 |
| ASRS Report | 613206 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 3125 flight time total : 16500 flight time type : 250 |
| ASRS Report | 613207 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : exit conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance non adherence : company policies other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Aircraft ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance Company |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were flying the ege FMS cottonwood 2 departure, dated jan/sat/99. Aircraft confign was flaps 5 degrees, autoplt engaged, LNAV, VNAV, V2+15 KTS (159 KIAS). On initial contact with ZDV and climbing through 10000 ft MSL, I asked for direct jessi -- per our procedure. The request was denied. We were told to 'fly the procedure.' this caused a great deal of confusion in the cockpit because our procedure requires us to fly direct to jessi after passing 10000 ft MSL. So what was the procedure if we couldn't fly direct jessi? We erased the direct jessi that we had entered into the FMS. The aircraft continued to track to waypoint F219G. ATC gave us a TA descending into ege. Moments later, we received a TCASII alert 'traffic,' and tried to acquire the traffic visually (without success). When the aircraft reached waypoint F219G, it turned to waypoint F204K which placed us in aspen airspace. ATC then gave us a heading, then direct to jessi and advised us to call them upon arrival into ewr.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CONFUSION REIGNED IN THIS B757 COCKPIT WHEN THE EXPECTED CLRNC WAS NOT GIVEN DUE TO INBOUND TFC. A TCASII TA RESULTED AND THE FLT CREW WAS UNCLR AS TO WHAT WAS EXPECTED OF THEM.
Narrative: WE WERE FLYING THE EGE FMS COTTONWOOD 2 DEP, DATED JAN/SAT/99. ACFT CONFIGN WAS FLAPS 5 DEGS, AUTOPLT ENGAGED, LNAV, VNAV, V2+15 KTS (159 KIAS). ON INITIAL CONTACT WITH ZDV AND CLBING THROUGH 10000 FT MSL, I ASKED FOR DIRECT JESSI -- PER OUR PROC. THE REQUEST WAS DENIED. WE WERE TOLD TO 'FLY THE PROC.' THIS CAUSED A GREAT DEAL OF CONFUSION IN THE COCKPIT BECAUSE OUR PROC REQUIRES US TO FLY DIRECT TO JESSI AFTER PASSING 10000 FT MSL. SO WHAT WAS THE PROC IF WE COULDN'T FLY DIRECT JESSI? WE ERASED THE DIRECT JESSI THAT WE HAD ENTERED INTO THE FMS. THE ACFT CONTINUED TO TRACK TO WAYPOINT F219G. ATC GAVE US A TA DSNDING INTO EGE. MOMENTS LATER, WE RECEIVED A TCASII ALERT 'TFC,' AND TRIED TO ACQUIRE THE TFC VISUALLY (WITHOUT SUCCESS). WHEN THE ACFT REACHED WAYPOINT F219G, IT TURNED TO WAYPOINT F204K WHICH PLACED US IN ASPEN AIRSPACE. ATC THEN GAVE US A HDG, THEN DIRECT TO JESSI AND ADVISED US TO CALL THEM UPON ARR INTO EWR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.