Ryan navion pilot was cleared into dcadiz by the nyg military approach controller after xfer to pct ...

Attributes
ACN	616782
Time
Date	200405
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	navaid : brv.vortac
State Reference	VA
Altitude	msl single value : 3100
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : nyg.tracon tracon : pct.tracon
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Navion Aircraft Corp Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	other
Flight Phase	cruise : level
Route In Use	enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : private
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 310 flight time type : 0
ASRS Report	616782
Person 2
Affiliation	other
Function	observation : passenger
Events
Anomaly	airspace violation : entry non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far
Independent Detector	atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued alert flight crew : exited penetrated airspace flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Filed ADIZ and VFR flight plan. While over brooke, quantico approach cleared us into the ADIZ. They also warned that R6608A, B, C, was in our path and offered that a climb or vectors would keep us out. We chose both. After getting over the restr area, quantico put us back on course. Shortly after, quantico switched us over to potomac approach who told us we were not cleared into class B airspace. I made a 180 degree turn to sort out the airspace problem we did not anticipate (being cleared into the ADIZ and not class B). The owner of the plane indicated that as long as we remained between 2500-3500 ft we would clear both airspaces. I kept us at 3200 ft and resumed on course. Shortly afterward, we advised that we were in class B and to get out. I descended the plane rapidly to comply. On the sectional, the class B and restr airspace boundaries coincide, so our course should have permitted a descent without entering the restr airspace. After landing, we again read the chart, and the floor of the class B was 3000 ft. Contributing factors were the unexpected ADIZ clearance without a class B clearance, the close proximity of the 2 airspaces, CRM in that neither of us flew with each other before, outlined responsibilities for the flight, etc. I also inaccurately expected the owner to be familiar with the airspace because this was the area he most commonly flew in.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: RYAN NAVION PLT WAS CLRED INTO DCADIZ BY THE NYG MIL APCH CTLR AFTER XFER TO PCT CTLR, HE INFORMED THE PLT THAT HE DID NOT HAVE CLRNC INTO DCA CLASS B AIRSPACE.

Narrative: FILED ADIZ AND VFR FLT PLAN. WHILE OVER BROOKE, QUANTICO APCH CLRED US INTO THE ADIZ. THEY ALSO WARNED THAT R6608A, B, C, WAS IN OUR PATH AND OFFERED THAT A CLB OR VECTORS WOULD KEEP US OUT. WE CHOSE BOTH. AFTER GETTING OVER THE RESTR AREA, QUANTICO PUT US BACK ON COURSE. SHORTLY AFTER, QUANTICO SWITCHED US OVER TO POTOMAC APCH WHO TOLD US WE WERE NOT CLRED INTO CLASS B AIRSPACE. I MADE A 180 DEG TURN TO SORT OUT THE AIRSPACE PROB WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE (BEING CLRED INTO THE ADIZ AND NOT CLASS B). THE OWNER OF THE PLANE INDICATED THAT AS LONG AS WE REMAINED BTWN 2500-3500 FT WE WOULD CLR BOTH AIRSPACES. I KEPT US AT 3200 FT AND RESUMED ON COURSE. SHORTLY AFTERWARD, WE ADVISED THAT WE WERE IN CLASS B AND TO GET OUT. I DSNDED THE PLANE RAPIDLY TO COMPLY. ON THE SECTIONAL, THE CLASS B AND RESTR AIRSPACE BOUNDARIES COINCIDE, SO OUR COURSE SHOULD HAVE PERMITTED A DSCNT WITHOUT ENTERING THE RESTR AIRSPACE. AFTER LNDG, WE AGAIN READ THE CHART, AND THE FLOOR OF THE CLASS B WAS 3000 FT. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS WERE THE UNEXPECTED ADIZ CLRNC WITHOUT A CLASS B CLRNC, THE CLOSE PROX OF THE 2 AIRSPACES, CRM IN THAT NEITHER OF US FLEW WITH EACH OTHER BEFORE, OUTLINED RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE FLT, ETC. I ALSO INACCURATELY EXPECTED THE OWNER TO BE FAMILIAR WITH THE AIRSPACE BECAUSE THIS WAS THE AREA HE MOST COMMONLY FLEW IN.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Ryan navion pilot was cleared into dcadiz by the nyg military approach controller after xfer to pct controller, he informed the pilot that he did not have clearance into dca class B airspace.