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Attributes | |
ACN | 619841 |
Time | |
Date | 200406 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : clt.airport |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : clt.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 619841 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : company policies non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During pushback from gate at clt, we were required to call clearance delivery for our release time. Called ramp control and were told to follow company aircraft for runway 36R. Upon crossing runway 5/23, we were told to contact clt ground control. We then realized we had continued taxi and crossed an inactive runway without clearance from ground. The clearance we thought we had to taxi to runway 36R may have actually came from ramp control. Ramp controllers (in an attempt to be like an ATC controller) often use terminology similar to ATC controller. This technique blurs the distinction between ramp and ATC ground control. For instance, ramp usually tells aircraft to go to the 'spot' and call ground, but this time they told us to 'follow the company aircraft to runway 36R.' other factors contributing to this error were the duty day of nearly 13 hours, flight time of 7 hours 30 mins, only getting 4 hours sleep the night before due to long days spent in moving. This was an honest mistake both the captain and myself make. We were both stunned as to how this could have possibly happened and neither one caught the mistake. We both concur that we both heard a taxi clearance and I believe I responded to one, but I may have done so on clearance delivery frequency or ramp control. And the taxi clearance we heard may have been for the company aircraft we were following. Neither of us ever realized anything was amiss until we had crossed the runway and were told by ramp control to call ground. We view this very seriously and act professionally while at work. Thankfully, runway 5/23 was not in use nor did clt tower have to use it for an emergency aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF B737 CONFUSE RAMP CTL INSTRUCTION FOR ATCT GND CTL CLRNC AND CROSS RWY WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: DURING PUSHBACK FROM GATE AT CLT, WE WERE REQUIRED TO CALL CLRNC DELIVERY FOR OUR RELEASE TIME. CALLED RAMP CTL AND WERE TOLD TO FOLLOW COMPANY ACFT FOR RWY 36R. UPON XING RWY 5/23, WE WERE TOLD TO CONTACT CLT GND CTL. WE THEN REALIZED WE HAD CONTINUED TAXI AND CROSSED AN INACTIVE RWY WITHOUT CLRNC FROM GND. THE CLRNC WE THOUGHT WE HAD TO TAXI TO RWY 36R MAY HAVE ACTUALLY CAME FROM RAMP CTL. RAMP CTLRS (IN AN ATTEMPT TO BE LIKE AN ATC CTLR) OFTEN USE TERMINOLOGY SIMILAR TO ATC CTLR. THIS TECHNIQUE BLURS THE DISTINCTION BTWN RAMP AND ATC GND CTL. FOR INSTANCE, RAMP USUALLY TELLS ACFT TO GO TO THE 'SPOT' AND CALL GND, BUT THIS TIME THEY TOLD US TO 'FOLLOW THE COMPANY ACFT TO RWY 36R.' OTHER FACTORS CONTRIBUTING TO THIS ERROR WERE THE DUTY DAY OF NEARLY 13 HRS, FLT TIME OF 7 HRS 30 MINS, ONLY GETTING 4 HRS SLEEP THE NIGHT BEFORE DUE TO LONG DAYS SPENT IN MOVING. THIS WAS AN HONEST MISTAKE BOTH THE CAPT AND MYSELF MAKE. WE WERE BOTH STUNNED AS TO HOW THIS COULD HAVE POSSIBLY HAPPENED AND NEITHER ONE CAUGHT THE MISTAKE. WE BOTH CONCUR THAT WE BOTH HEARD A TAXI CLRNC AND I BELIEVE I RESPONDED TO ONE, BUT I MAY HAVE DONE SO ON CLRNC DELIVERY FREQ OR RAMP CTL. AND THE TAXI CLRNC WE HEARD MAY HAVE BEEN FOR THE COMPANY ACFT WE WERE FOLLOWING. NEITHER OF US EVER REALIZED ANYTHING WAS AMISS UNTIL WE HAD CROSSED THE RWY AND WERE TOLD BY RAMP CTL TO CALL GND. WE VIEW THIS VERY SERIOUSLY AND ACT PROFESSIONALLY WHILE AT WORK. THANKFULLY, RWY 5/23 WAS NOT IN USE NOR DID CLT TWR HAVE TO USE IT FOR AN EMER ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.