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Attributes | |
ACN | 621736 |
Time | |
Date | 200406 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : irw.vortac |
State Reference | OK |
Altitude | msl single value : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : okc.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : okc.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Harrier |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
ASRS Report | 621736 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 600 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
All aircraft are on IFR. Crj, 10 mi northeast of irw at 6000 ft sbound, vectored to downwind. PA28 7000 ft sbound 10 mi north irw sbound. HS25 off okc northbound climbing to 5000 ft, cleared to 1500 ft on initial contact because procedure for final has control for descent on contact. I consider this procedure to be unsafe. Final should not descend on contact, but rather when the aircraft enters their airspace.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: OKC APCH CTLR EXPERIENCED OPERROR BTWN CLBING AND DSNDING ACFT.
Narrative: ALL ACFT ARE ON IFR. CRJ, 10 MI NE OF IRW AT 6000 FT SBOUND, VECTORED TO DOWNWIND. PA28 7000 FT SBOUND 10 MI N IRW SBOUND. HS25 OFF OKC NBOUND CLBING TO 5000 FT, CLRED TO 1500 FT ON INITIAL CONTACT BECAUSE PROC FOR FINAL HAS CTL FOR DSCNT ON CONTACT. I CONSIDER THIS PROC TO BE UNSAFE. FINAL SHOULD NOT DSND ON CONTACT, BUT RATHER WHEN THE ACFT ENTERS THEIR AIRSPACE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.