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B737 first officer runway incursion report regarding the failure of his captain to hold short when not responding to his attempts at CRM after passing the hold short line for runway 28L at sfo.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 622367 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200311 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sfo.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10200 flight time type : 500 |
| ASRS Report | 622367 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Landed runway 28R. Instructed to hold short runway 28L for landing traffic. Captain taxied up to hold line for runway 28L but didn't come to a complete stop. I said 'we need to hold short.' he replied that he knew this but still kept creeping along about 2 KTS. I said 'we need to hold short.' he didn't say anything and finally stopped about 40 ft past the hold short line for runway 28L. We were then cleared across. On the taxi-in, ramp control said tower wanted us to call in. The captain told me later they mentioned the hold short problem and he gave me the impression that he argued with the tower, hence this report. I did what I could aside from jamming on the brakes, but he did finally stop.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 FO RWY INCURSION RPT REGARDING THE FAILURE OF HIS CAPT TO HOLD SHORT WHEN NOT RESPONDING TO HIS ATTEMPTS AT CRM AFTER PASSING THE HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 28L AT SFO.
Narrative: LANDED RWY 28R. INSTRUCTED TO HOLD SHORT RWY 28L FOR LNDG TFC. CAPT TAXIED UP TO HOLD LINE FOR RWY 28L BUT DIDN'T COME TO A COMPLETE STOP. I SAID 'WE NEED TO HOLD SHORT.' HE REPLIED THAT HE KNEW THIS BUT STILL KEPT CREEPING ALONG ABOUT 2 KTS. I SAID 'WE NEED TO HOLD SHORT.' HE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING AND FINALLY STOPPED ABOUT 40 FT PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 28L. WE WERE THEN CLRED ACROSS. ON THE TAXI-IN, RAMP CTL SAID TWR WANTED US TO CALL IN. THE CAPT TOLD ME LATER THEY MENTIONED THE HOLD SHORT PROB AND HE GAVE ME THE IMPRESSION THAT HE ARGUED WITH THE TWR, HENCE THIS RPT. I DID WHAT I COULD ASIDE FROM JAMMING ON THE BRAKES, BUT HE DID FINALLY STOP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.