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Attributes | |
ACN | 626123 |
Time | |
Date | 200407 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A319 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lga.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 626123 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 626122 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway incursion : taxiway non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : separated traffic controller : issued alert flight crew : executed go around |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
As we taxied to the runway at lga ground control told us to taxi to runway 13 via behind air carrier Y taxiway B to taxiway P to hold short of runway 22 at taxiway P. As we taxied we completed a xbleed start and I was busy as we approached taxiway P which the captain missed. Before I could contact ground to see what he wanted us to do he told us to turn onto taxiway F. From the position from which the captain made the turn the captain could not see the hold short lines which we crossed slightly. Ground told us to stop which we did. There may have been a go around as a result. Ground did not say there was any problem or conflict. Supplemental information from acn 626122: after a few maintenance problems at the gate (APU airbleed, approximately 100% in cockpit external airstart, xbleed start, flight attendant panel, security inspection) we were told to follow aircraft Y air carrier B767. I either did not hear 'hold short of runway 22 at taxiway P,' or I forgot the instructions. As I made the turn, looking for the hold short lines, the first officer said we had already passed them. ATC did not question us as to our understanding of the taxi instructions.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RWY INCURSION AFTER A TXWY INCURSION TO TXWY B VERSUS TXWY P BY AN A319 FLT CREW WHO WAS DISTR WITH A XBLEED START ON TAXI OUT TO RWY 13 AT LGA.
Narrative: AS WE TAXIED TO THE RWY AT LGA GND CTL TOLD US TO TAXI TO RWY 13 VIA BEHIND ACR Y TXWY B TO TXWY P TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 22 AT TXWY P. AS WE TAXIED WE COMPLETED A XBLEED START AND I WAS BUSY AS WE APCHED TXWY P WHICH THE CAPT MISSED. BEFORE I COULD CONTACT GND TO SEE WHAT HE WANTED US TO DO HE TOLD US TO TURN ONTO TXWY F. FROM THE POS FROM WHICH THE CAPT MADE THE TURN THE CAPT COULD NOT SEE THE HOLD SHORT LINES WHICH WE CROSSED SLIGHTLY. GND TOLD US TO STOP WHICH WE DID. THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A GAR AS A RESULT. GND DID NOT SAY THERE WAS ANY PROB OR CONFLICT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 626122: AFTER A FEW MAINT PROBS AT THE GATE (APU AIRBLEED, APPROX 100% IN COCKPIT EXTERNAL AIRSTART, XBLEED START, FLT ATTENDANT PANEL, SECURITY INSPECTION) WE WERE TOLD TO FOLLOW ACFT Y ACR B767. I EITHER DID NOT HEAR 'HOLD SHORT OF RWY 22 AT TXWY P,' OR I FORGOT THE INSTRUCTIONS. AS I MADE THE TURN, LOOKING FOR THE HOLD SHORT LINES, THE FO SAID WE HAD ALREADY PASSED THEM. ATC DID NOT QUESTION US AS TO OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE TAXI INSTRUCTIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.