<< >> NASA ASRS Report 638731, November 2004

Disagreement about dc ADIZ operations requirements arises between a designated pilot examiner and hef ATCT local controller.

Attributes
ACN	638731
Time
Date	200411
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : hef.airport
State Reference	VA
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : pct.tracon tower : hef.tower
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	cruise : level descent : approach
Flight Plan	DVR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	other personnel other
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : private pilot : multi engine pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1000
ASRS Report	638731
Person 2
Affiliation	other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : private
Events
Anomaly	airspace violation : entry non adherence : published procedure
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued advisory flight crew : landed as precaution other
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Airspace Structure FAA Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	Ambiguous

Narrative:

10 mi inside the washington/baltimore ADIZ, I was administering an FAA instrument airplane practice test. Normal procedure is to leave the ADIZ and conduct the test at other airports. Due to WX moving into the area, I asked potomac approach if they could handle an ILS runway 16L approach to manassas in which we would complete a touch-and-go and then leave the ADIZ to complete the test. Potomac said no problem, keep the code, contact them on departure, znd contact tower. I contacted tower and told them our intentions and was told I either had to land or complete a touch-and-G0, or change my code to XXXX and remain in the pattern. A discussion followed but I elected to land, shut down and situation it out on the ground. We filed new flight plans for exit and entry into the ADIZ and completed the test. As it stands, though, the ADIZ security NOTAM has succeeded at violating more than 1500 pilots, jeopardized safety, and has caught no terrorists.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: DISAGREEMENT ABOUT DC ADIZ OPS REQUIREMENTS ARISES BTWN A DESIGNATED PLT EXAMINER AND HEF ATCT LCL CTLR.

Narrative: 10 MI INSIDE THE WASHINGTON/BALTIMORE ADIZ, I WAS ADMINISTERING AN FAA INST AIRPLANE PRACTICE TEST. NORMAL PROC IS TO LEAVE THE ADIZ AND CONDUCT THE TEST AT OTHER ARPTS. DUE TO WX MOVING INTO THE AREA, I ASKED POTOMAC APCH IF THEY COULD HANDLE AN ILS RWY 16L APCH TO MANASSAS IN WHICH WE WOULD COMPLETE A TOUCH-AND-GO AND THEN LEAVE THE ADIZ TO COMPLETE THE TEST. POTOMAC SAID NO PROB, KEEP THE CODE, CONTACT THEM ON DEP, ZND CONTACT TWR. I CONTACTED TWR AND TOLD THEM OUR INTENTIONS AND WAS TOLD I EITHER HAD TO LAND OR COMPLETE A TOUCH-AND-G0, OR CHANGE MY CODE TO XXXX AND REMAIN IN THE PATTERN. A DISCUSSION FOLLOWED BUT I ELECTED TO LAND, SHUT DOWN AND SIT IT OUT ON THE GND. WE FILED NEW FLT PLANS FOR EXIT AND ENTRY INTO THE ADIZ AND COMPLETED THE TEST. AS IT STANDS, THOUGH, THE ADIZ SECURITY NOTAM HAS SUCCEEDED AT VIOLATING MORE THAN 1500 PLTS, JEOPARDIZED SAFETY, AND HAS CAUGHT NO TERRORISTS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.